WAY Off Topic/ DSL or Cable????

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Big Lar

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I know... but we do help each other ..... OK I can get DSL here/ not sure on Cable yet/ whats better/ more reliable???? Also, Internet Explorer or Netscape???? Sorry for posting in the wrong forum, but I know I'll get answers here / Thanx in advance

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XkALiBRe

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IMO, that's a hard question to answer. I dont think anyone can flat out say, cable is always better, or DSL is always better. It depends on your area. In my area, cable is faster and cheaper than DSL...so I use cable. But I know of others who can get DSL way cheaper, and way faster. IMO, grab whatever's cheap, fast, and available.

Also, I use IE. Netscape is too slow - and you miss out on some web-effects and stuff sometimes.

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S_Klass

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IE is slightly quicker but then that's actually somewhat of an illusion. IE displays the page and THEN formats it (that's why you'll see a page twitch and jump just before it's 100% done in IE), while Netscape (never twitches or jumps) formats the page BEFORE displaying it. To get to the same finished page, they both run similar times.

I have cable and I'm happy with it. Security is more of an issue with cable as it's essentially a neighbourhood LAN but with some internet smarts you'll be fine. And thats not to say xDSL is 100% safe either.


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Big Lar

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Thanx for the replies, I've heard the Horror stories ot supposed "Techs" botching up the job of the install..... Whats involved? Usb modem? What... I can get ameritech/ which is my phone provider, for $39.95 a month, and free install and modem, Is it a decent deal , or is ameritch botched// ya ya I'm clueless


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OverclockingAddict

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Cable usually comes with less hassle. If all you want it for is web surfing, go with cable. The download is incredible for cable, but the upload is usually capped at 128 kilobits. DSL is easier to botch.
 
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Rick25

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I'd say DSL is the way to go. I've got DSL and I have had next to no downtime over the last year or so. Friend of mine with @Home keeps losing email every other weekend or so.

The other advantage of DSL is that the bandwith is all yours. While it's dependant on your distance from the Central Office (closer is better), you don't share the bandwith with other DSL users in your neighbourhood. Depending on the time and the server I'm connecting to I can get download speeds from between 100-115KB/sec. Upload speed is capped at a crappy 14KB/sec, but unless you're uploading huge files to a webpage it's more then ok.
Costwise it's a toss up, in my area it's about $39.95/month (Cdn) for either service.
We're running PPPoE for getting IP addresses assigned. It's a bit of a hassle compared to the DHCP server that used to assign IP's, but there are benefits. You get a new address each time, so no one hardcoding an IP can lock you out. You don't have the DHCP server going down and preventing you from getting an IP. It adds a bit of overhead to the packets but not enough to be noticable.
Don't forget to grab a program to tweak your network settings, since they're defaulted to values for dial up modems, changing them will allow higher speeds. The one I like is PPP Boost. Nice and simple. The values I've set are
MaxMTU=1480
RWIN=32120 and TTL=64.

let me know if you want any more info.

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saltedeggman

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I would say IE is way better...Netscape always freeze on it...that bitch!!!

Um...depends on the upload usage, if you uploads a lot, get DSL, way way better than cable, but if you just simply d/l, get cable, they are sometimes 3 times as fast...(depends on the traffic).

I have SDSL, which is very good enough for me...

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Big Lar

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Hmmmmm I will need the info/ but I will post that later, Thanx very much for the input/ I think I'll order the DSL as it is available here... Thanx again


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LaoChe

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Well first tell me what you are getting for $39/m (download\uplaod speeds)?

I say, DSL ALL THE WAY! The GREAT thing about DSL is that your connect stays pretty dang constant. Whatever time you get on you'll be running at high speeds. Whereas with cable it depends how many people are on at the same time in your neiborhood. If you are the only person on your block that has cable your speed will be SUPER but now you know that won't last for long as more people start getting cable too. With DSL you don't have to worry about that. What you get now is what you'll alway get (pretty much). I have a 1.5Mbps down \ 128Kbps up and it is freakin' AWESOME. I'm paying about $39/m and I WILL NEVER GO BACK TO DIALUP! I can get 6Mbps down \ 384Kbps up but that is $200/m! OUCH!! But my speeds right now are fantastic and UT plays like you are on a LAN.
 
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Rick25

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That's the one problem with switching to DSL, you can never go back. I'm now limited to moving to where I can get highspeed access.
Can just see some poor realestate agent trying to get the information I'd need.

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Big Lar

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Well/ they state 384 kbps to 1.544 mbps for DL'n, and 128 kbps for UL's... that any good??? I'll check out the Link salt
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Hikeon3

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Cable kinda sucks, I have to share my freaking bandwidth with SOOO MANY PEOPLE!!! Plus I have @home cable which is very very slow. I also get the worst Half-Life pings on earth. Even at about 2 am i get somewhere in the 300's!!! Thats not playable!!!!

Go DSL or T1/T3. You'll pay dearly but the bandwidth is worth drooling over.

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S_Klass

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Originally posted by Hikeon3:
I have @home cable which is very very slow.
Yesh @Home Cable service stinks but that's not indicative of all cable services though. @Home is suffering the same thing AOL was a year ago. Too much demand and not enough equipment/ bandwidth. Oh and for those DSL providers who promise you peak 100% bandwidth? That's only the last 0.5-1.5 miles between you and your switching station(s). DUH! of course you would get full bandwidth there, it's their UPSTREAM providers (Alter.Net, UU.Net...) that are more likely to suffer congestion.

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LaoChe

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Lar, that is exactly what I have and 384Kbps is the MINIMUM they guarantee you connect at. My speeds are nomally over 1Mbps. If you get DSL, let me know and I'll give you some registry tweaks that will totally speed up your connection. At that speed my ping in UT averages from 50-80, if the damn server I'm connecting to has that much bandwidth left over for me.
 
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Big Lar

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OK/ I'm lost again.... OC says no Lao says ya/lol All I really know is I am SICK OF AOL/ AND i HATE MY MODEM!!!! < laffn here....

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