Watercooling Kits

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woodman19_99

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Alright, I am thinking about trying out some watercooling on my 2500 Barton I bought. I want the easiest watercooling kit I can find. But don't read easy as cheap. I don't mind spending $$ on quality goods but I am a rookie at this stuff so make it easy too work with. Not looking too spend over $250USD on the goods, and please don't suggest individual parts as I would just assume not worrying about getting compatible parts.

Any help would be great.

Thanks
 
Marvt74

Marvt74

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I think dangerden do a maze 4/rbx kit which would be very about the highest quality kit available.

Failing that a waterchill kit is probably alright.

Or sure some fellow WCer in the us could pic out componets that would work great together from a US store
 
Marvt74

Marvt74

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#4
Yeah those are the ones i meant, much cheaper than here in the uk to.

The second would be better if you planned to upgrade later one due to the more powerful pump
 
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woodman19_99

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Thanks for the link NBD. I am going too check those out. How hard is it too set these up? Am I going too need a huge case too fit all the pieces in or what?
 
NewBlackDak

NewBlackDak

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Depends on how handy you are. The radiator is usually the hardest thing to figure out where to mount.
Some locations:
If you have 120mm fan already in your case then this is a great spot. You don't have to cut anything.
I've seen some people use thos brass standoffs to mount it to the top or back of the case.
I've seen people mount them in/instead of blowhole positions at the top of their case.
Personally I mounted my harddrives in 5.25" bays. My HDD rack is removable, so I removed it, and cut the case front to accept the rad. Works best for me. It gets fresh air first instead of hot case air.
 
Todd a

Todd a

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Koolance has an Exodus water cooling box that just sits on top of your case. [H]ardOCP has been using one for quite a while and love it. Here is their reveiw of it:

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=Mzc2





This is a link to NewEgg for the system for $195:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-155-989&depa=0

I don't think it comes with the water block, but NewEgg has one listed for $41 here:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-155-991&depa=0



They also have a VGE/chipset water block for $31 here:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-127-001&depa=0



And a hard drive cooler for $33 here:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-999-988&depa=0



The basic kit is priced OK, but the blocks are a bit price. It is VERY easy to install and all the reveiws I have read state that and that it performs very well. It also looks cool and has an LCD readout on the front. It is also supposed to be VERY quiet.
 
Todd a

Todd a

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Now for the other two I've seen.

NewEgg has the Crosair Xtreme Water Cooling System for $211 and it includes the waterblock:

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductdesc.asp?description=35-181-001&depa=1











It looks like this contains everything including the fluid. From the reveiws I've seen they say the Koolance system is smaller, a little quieter, and performs a bit better, plus it has more options (other blocks and even a tie-down stap if you take it to LAN parties). This one is cheaper though by about $30 because it comes with the block.
 
Todd a

Todd a

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The last is the cheapest and I have not heard too much about it. It fits inside the case and fits over one of the rear case fan spots. It is a complete system though and looks pretty simple to set up. NewEgg has the Thermaltake AquariusII Liquid Cooling System for $99 here:

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductdesc.asp?description=35-106-022&depa=1





The small radiator and fan will likely hold the cooling back quite a bit and will have trouble competing with the higher end air cooling like the SLK-900.
 
Marvt74

Marvt74

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#10
Yeah both thermaltake kits are pretty poor, and less benefical than high end air coolers.

What case do you have woodman?

P.s Good call on your films recently, bought supertroopers the other day after seeing it in your sig and what can i say but :D
 
Todd a

Todd a

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And as mentioned above, Danger Den has some of the BEST part out there. They do need a bit more assembly, but they do sell complete kits and offer other blocks. They have 2 kits here:

http://www.dangerden.com/mall/Kits/kits_retail.asp

The first is $175 and the second is $199. The second one adds a stronger pump so you can add the extra water blocks for VGA, chipset, hard drives... This is what the kits come with:


Maze4 Water Block


Black Ice Pro


Hydor L30 320GPH (1200 l/h) Pump


Sunon KD1212PTB1-6AF 120mm Fan


Water Wetter


Resivour (they have a bay one too)


It also includes the fittings, tubing, hose clamps an connectors.
 
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woodman19_99

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Todd a, thanks a bunch man. The pictures, links and everything, you must have had alittle free time this morning huh?:D

It looks like the Danger Den is a good choice, but I do like the idea of the Koolance and the Corsair kits being outside the case. I am not going to be moving it around that much, so size and weight aren't really an issue. The Koolance looks more promising because of the VGA Cooler which would be pretty nic on my 9500pro.

Marv, it will be going into a Lian-Li PC-65. I hope there will be enough room in there. I don't want too have too do much in the way of modding.

There are so many damn choices out there and you guys have done a great job of narrowing it down too a select few.

One last question before I get to the buying: I am using an NF7-S board, but it is only revision 1. WOuld it be worth it too upgrade too say an Ultra-400 type board like the DFI board or a revision 2.0 NF7-S?
 
Marvt74

Marvt74

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#13
Would depend on your cpu, a very overclockable chip would respeond to a better board better.

I'm thinking of doing a similar thing as i also only have a rev 1.1 board.

I think the pc65 is similar size to the chieftec style case and if you look at my "operation water" thread it all fits in there nicely. Though you will probably have to mod the front to fit the 120mm fan/rad
 
Todd a

Todd a

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If you have not gotten the case, then Danger Den also has water cooled cases. I'm not sure how "assembled" they are, but they are pretty cool looking and you can pick all the colors and parts you want:

http://www.dangerden.com/mall/cases/vexx.asp





and

http://www.dangerden.com/mall/cases/verge.asp





You can even get power supplies, cold cathodes, LED fans, fan controllers, LCD readouts, extra water blocks, and if you really got the dough, they will sleeve all your wires.
 
Martin_89

Martin_89

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im thinking about getting watercooling after ive got my monitor, but im wanting a kit that i can upgrade pump, radiator and water blocks etc as i go along.
 
Marvt74

Marvt74

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Also a problem with many kits such as waterchill etc is that they use 3/8 tubing whereas 1/2 is more beneficial.

The problem would then occur when wanting to upgrade and buy 3/8 - 1/2 adaptors etc
 
Mikie

Mikie

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I just bought the TT kit. Although definatly low end. It cools just fin on the super hot AMD 2000 pal.

Under total load no other fans going, in a slightly cramped case, it hits 60-61.

I turn on the rear fan half (fan control) and it 58-59.
I turn on the rear and top fan 50% and it 54-55.

Not the best, but No lock ups and this is one hot chip.

Also the rad is in the fron being blocked by a disconnected 120mm fan and restricted air holes.

But it is a silent and 12v pump all in one system that is simple to set up and even easier to change out the water.

The kit works with Intel/AMD all chips. I got it from Directron for $89, I wanted to get my feet wet (no pun) before dropping over $200 on the full set up.
 
NewBlackDak

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Not to bag on your purchase, but those are bad temps even for air-cooling.

My processor:
AXP 1700+ @ 2450 1.85v
Thermalright SLK-800A
Thermaltake highperformance 80mm @ 10v
5 case fans at 8v
Antec 550w Truepower
Full load temps NEVER get above 47C
it idles at 38C.
The only thing you can hear is the harddrive in my machine


The water-cooling will be going on by the 15th, and I expect temps just above ambient especially with the mobile 2600+ that will be here this afternoon.
 

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