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My opinion:
Nothing matches the sound of a PC with a sound blaster live. If you have a fast processor and decent video card, who needs a playstation2? Personally, I will never buy a console because 99% of the games are idiotic. I simple do NOT play sport or racing games, neither am I interested in watching two characters hit each other on the nose 600 times.
PCs have Internet access, I can chat on ICQ and IRC, do email, surf, and best of all, PLAY NETWORK GAMES! Nothing beats a Friday evening/night with LAN gaming! I also play Everquest a lot, HalfLife, Diablo2, Starcraft, and some Asherons' Call. Not to mention Unreal Tournement. Who needs that file of junk?
PS2 = fancy electronics + high price x2 = worthless
Playing games at resolutions LOWER than 640x480 is NOT fun. No TV can come close to 1600x1200, and having a refresh rate of 50/60Hz is poor compared to my refreshrate of 120Hz.
IMHO of course
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My opinion:
Nothing matches the sound of a PC with a sound blaster live. If you have a fast processor and decent video card, who needs a playstation2? Personally, I will never buy a console because 99% of the games are idiotic. I simple do NOT play sport or racing games, neither am I interested in watching two characters hit each other on the nose 600 times.
PCs have Internet access, I can chat on ICQ and IRC, do email, surf, and best of all, PLAY NETWORK GAMES! Nothing beats a Friday evening/night with LAN gaming! I also play Everquest a lot, HalfLife, Diablo2, Starcraft, and some Asherons' Call. Not to mention Unreal Tournement. Who needs that file of junk?
PS2 = fancy electronics + high price x2 = worthless
Playing games at resolutions LOWER than 640x480 is NOT fun. No TV can come close to 1600x1200, and having a refresh rate of 50/60Hz is poor compared to my refreshrate of 120Hz.
IMHO of course
Someone was going to bring this up so it may as well be you digital
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Simple answer is, both if you want and PS2 or Dreamcast only if you can't afford to keep up with the significant costs involved buying and keeping a PC "CUTTING" edge .
I personally won't buy a console as they don't interest me, I've played friends Dreamcasts and the thing that strikes me most is "this game could look good on my PC". I've also built a couple of PC's recently for friends that own Dreamcasts after letting them play with my PC.
Simple answer is, both if you want and PS2 or Dreamcast only if you can't afford to keep up with the significant costs involved buying and keeping a PC "CUTTING" edge .
I personally won't buy a console as they don't interest me, I've played friends Dreamcasts and the thing that strikes me most is "this game could look good on my PC". I've also built a couple of PC's recently for friends that own Dreamcasts after letting them play with my PC.
Well first things first. The Playstation 2
isn't even out yet except in Japan. Second
the PS2 and DC will both have network play
within a few months. Consoles are seemingly
evolving from PCs. They are becoming more
and more like computers. Personally though
I still like PC games more. Just a weird
preference I have.
isn't even out yet except in Japan. Second
the PS2 and DC will both have network play
within a few months. Consoles are seemingly
evolving from PCs. They are becoming more
and more like computers. Personally though
I still like PC games more. Just a weird
preference I have.
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The only reason for buying the PS2 would be if you absolutely must have the console only games that you know will not come out on PC... I am a HUGE fan of Tekken and some others but I don't think I'll be spendin the 300+ for it... (that can buy some good hardware for pc!
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... some of my favorite games that originated from console like Resident Evil have starting coming out for pc, but then I started noticing that the PC already had some better games out there... just my opinion
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ok A computer has up to 2048x1536 in resolution ...... a TV has up to 800x600 (hdtv=$10000)
A Dreamcast has much better graphics than a PSX 2 easily. (yes I have played both)
PC has more expandability than a PSX 2 or any other console. yes the PSX2 is cheaper but the PC will always have better sound and power... I will never buy another console after my PSX...
also:
X-Box=CRAP! (overrated)
PSX2=CRAP! (overrated)
A Dreamcast has much better graphics than a PSX 2 easily. (yes I have played both)
PC has more expandability than a PSX 2 or any other console. yes the PSX2 is cheaper but the PC will always have better sound and power... I will never buy another console after my PSX...
also:
X-Box=CRAP! (overrated)
PSX2=CRAP! (overrated)
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Now you've done it Procede. I have a Japanese PS2 and a DC and I have to admit you are right. The DC graphics are better than the PS2 so far. Much cleaner graphics (yes Sony fans, all that PSX fog is making its return on the PS2) But remember that DC software is in its 2nd generation.
Still, the PS2 is DEFINATELY not the Dreamcast killer some thought it would be.
You know what really sucks, every time I play Ridge Racer 4 I remember all the screen shots we all saw. Those were not in game shots, they were in game cinemas, using the DVD capabilities. So basically they were DVD movies.
All the hype was just a big time screw.
Dave
Still, the PS2 is DEFINATELY not the Dreamcast killer some thought it would be.
You know what really sucks, every time I play Ridge Racer 4 I remember all the screen shots we all saw. Those were not in game shots, they were in game cinemas, using the DVD capabilities. So basically they were DVD movies.
All the hype was just a big time screw.
Dave
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I'd have to agree with Legionary.
Most of the games for consoles are pathetic. The console market is more child-based therefor it produces a lot of "bad" games in my view.
As of now, you can't upgrade a console (well, technicaly you can, but it's expensive and drastic). A PC is highly upgradeable and offers more flexability. You also have the internet sitting infront of you which allows you to download mods, skins, and ect. Most importantly, you can play online with people easily.
It seems as though no matter how far the console market goes, PCs always have the edge.
On a graphics and benchmark comparison on the same game between the Dreamcast and a PC w/ a GeForce 256, P3-600 or 700 (can't remember) was taken on a show called The Screen Savers (yeah... I watch ZDTV, I'm lame
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). The PC won by a pretty large margin in both aspects <just for an example
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Most of the games for consoles are pathetic. The console market is more child-based therefor it produces a lot of "bad" games in my view.
As of now, you can't upgrade a console (well, technicaly you can, but it's expensive and drastic). A PC is highly upgradeable and offers more flexability. You also have the internet sitting infront of you which allows you to download mods, skins, and ect. Most importantly, you can play online with people easily.
It seems as though no matter how far the console market goes, PCs always have the edge.
On a graphics and benchmark comparison on the same game between the Dreamcast and a PC w/ a GeForce 256, P3-600 or 700 (can't remember) was taken on a show called The Screen Savers (yeah... I watch ZDTV, I'm lame
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You guys are freakin' ridiculous. YOU NEED BOTH!
Unless you don't have any freinds, in that case stick w/ your PC only. There's nothing better than a 2 vs. 2 Football, Basketball, Hockey game played in your living room drinking beer with a few freinds. I like internet gaming too especially because I have freinds in many areas of the country. I would much rather have them over at my house if it was possible.
You know what it sucks to try and get four guys gathered around a 19" monitor on a desk, especially when there's very few games that even support 2 players on one computer.
What else are consoles good for?
They are cheaper or equivalent in cost to a new damn videocard for one. Can't upgrade them? Who the hell cares when they cost less than a GeForce2?
Fighting games. What's the best fighting game on the PC? Never mind, cause THEY ALL SUCK!
The best RPG's are on the consoles too. There's a few good ones on the PC, but they are all playing catchup to the likes of the Final Fantasy, Zelda, and Chrono Trigger.
How about light gun games? Which platform has better ones? Let me rephrase that to "NAME A LIGHTGUN GAME ON THE PC WHY DON"T YOU". Time Crisis, Point Blank, and House of the Dead are a blast to play.
Here's another one "Tony Hawk Pro Skater". That games is a blast! I can play it all day and it's a 5+ year old Playstation platform. You just can't get that game or anything like it for the PC.
How about gamepads? The Playstation Dual Shock gamepad outclasses every PC gamepad hands down. Microsoft Sidewinder pales in comparison. I have a Gravis Exterminator Analog and I would throw it right in the trash if my Playstation controller would work on my PC.
Here's another one: My 32" T.V. sure is nice when your hanging out gaming with some freinds to relax around a big old screen like that. How much are 32" computer monitors? I haven't checked lately.
How about those patches? You know how many patches I've downloaded for console games? Guess.
That's because the games are usually DONE, FINISHED, COMPLETE, when you hand over the money for them. there's one huge list of PC games that hit storeshelves not even playable. You have to download a patch as soon as you bring it home.
I could go on, but I think I've made the point that there's definately good reasons for owning both.
Unless you don't have any freinds, in that case stick w/ your PC only. There's nothing better than a 2 vs. 2 Football, Basketball, Hockey game played in your living room drinking beer with a few freinds. I like internet gaming too especially because I have freinds in many areas of the country. I would much rather have them over at my house if it was possible.
You know what it sucks to try and get four guys gathered around a 19" monitor on a desk, especially when there's very few games that even support 2 players on one computer.
What else are consoles good for?
They are cheaper or equivalent in cost to a new damn videocard for one. Can't upgrade them? Who the hell cares when they cost less than a GeForce2?
Fighting games. What's the best fighting game on the PC? Never mind, cause THEY ALL SUCK!
The best RPG's are on the consoles too. There's a few good ones on the PC, but they are all playing catchup to the likes of the Final Fantasy, Zelda, and Chrono Trigger.
How about light gun games? Which platform has better ones? Let me rephrase that to "NAME A LIGHTGUN GAME ON THE PC WHY DON"T YOU". Time Crisis, Point Blank, and House of the Dead are a blast to play.
Here's another one "Tony Hawk Pro Skater". That games is a blast! I can play it all day and it's a 5+ year old Playstation platform. You just can't get that game or anything like it for the PC.
How about gamepads? The Playstation Dual Shock gamepad outclasses every PC gamepad hands down. Microsoft Sidewinder pales in comparison. I have a Gravis Exterminator Analog and I would throw it right in the trash if my Playstation controller would work on my PC.
Here's another one: My 32" T.V. sure is nice when your hanging out gaming with some freinds to relax around a big old screen like that. How much are 32" computer monitors? I haven't checked lately.
How about those patches? You know how many patches I've downloaded for console games? Guess.
That's because the games are usually DONE, FINISHED, COMPLETE, when you hand over the money for them. there's one huge list of PC games that hit storeshelves not even playable. You have to download a patch as soon as you bring it home.
I could go on, but I think I've made the point that there's definately good reasons for owning both.
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I have a lot of friends, and I'm not going to brag now, but I have a lot of computers too, and I plan on some more before the end of the year. Nothing is better than inviting 8 friends, some with pcs, and hooking it up in my hub and playing Unreal Tournement, DiabloII, HalfLife, and Age of Kings.
I don't play sport games, they are totally stupid to me.
Most of my computers have 17" screens, and I can manage 1024x768 on it. Best of all, cool graphics, cool sound, lots of friends, nice games, and loads of dvd movies, who needs a console?
About the playstation controls whatever you call it, my trusty keyboard and mouse will frag you away in any of the above mentioned games. I don't need fancy gimmicks. I have an Intellimouse Explorer, and it rocks while sniping!
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Sorry, but when you have a PC you don't need a console.
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I don't play sport games, they are totally stupid to me.
Most of my computers have 17" screens, and I can manage 1024x768 on it. Best of all, cool graphics, cool sound, lots of friends, nice games, and loads of dvd movies, who needs a console?
About the playstation controls whatever you call it, my trusty keyboard and mouse will frag you away in any of the above mentioned games. I don't need fancy gimmicks. I have an Intellimouse Explorer, and it rocks while sniping!
Sorry, but when you have a PC you don't need a console.
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Yeah...
Playing on a N64 with 4 people on a 42" big screen, drinking alcohol, eating chinese food, pizza, and sour patches from 4 p.m. to 9 a.m. is pretty fun... I admit
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And that damn hang over in the morning,
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well, thats no fun.
You should try playing against 3 other people in James Bond: 007 for about 15 hours straight
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(drunk - I should add)
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[This message has been edited by Gigahert (edited 08-21-2000).]
Playing on a N64 with 4 people on a 42" big screen, drinking alcohol, eating chinese food, pizza, and sour patches from 4 p.m. to 9 a.m. is pretty fun... I admit
You should try playing against 3 other people in James Bond: 007 for about 15 hours straight
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[This message has been edited by Gigahert (edited 08-21-2000).]
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Hmmnnn....i just gave a slew of reasons to have a console and you only addressed a couple of them.
Let's see what you said.
Yes, much better than getting 4-5 crowded around a desk to look at a 19".
Cost of one console vs. 8 PCs = good reason to think about a console.
I have an Intellimouse Explorer too. It really sucks for games like heavy Metal F.A.K.K., driving games, snowboarding games, etc. If you limit yourself to FPS and RTS games you should be alright with the mouse/keyboard, but a keyboard was made for typing a gamepad for gaming.
And Gigahert I've played many multiplayer rounds of GoldenEye and Turok on the N64, that's good fun.
Let's see what you said.
Yes, much better than getting 4-5 crowded around a desk to look at a 19".
Cost of one console vs. 8 PCs = good reason to think about a console.
I have an Intellimouse Explorer too. It really sucks for games like heavy Metal F.A.K.K., driving games, snowboarding games, etc. If you limit yourself to FPS and RTS games you should be alright with the mouse/keyboard, but a keyboard was made for typing a gamepad for gaming.
And Gigahert I've played many multiplayer rounds of GoldenEye and Turok on the N64, that's good fun.
While not wanting to get drawn into this topic again, I'm using an Intellimouse Explorer in FAAK 2 and it works fine for me.
To sum up if you are on a budget get a console. If you can afford to keep up with the significant cost of PC gaming, then you can also have a console if you want. I don't
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I know (after playing with friends consoles), It would end up gathering dust in the corner after a week.
To sum up if you are on a budget get a console. If you can afford to keep up with the significant cost of PC gaming, then you can also have a console if you want. I don't
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