Overheating on [email protected]???

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janzer

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I'm kind of stumped on this one. I recently got a k62-500 and put it in a:

-gigabyte board[ga-5aa, revision 1.3 bios{latest bios}, w/ali aladdin V M1542 & M1543C AGPset]
-96M RAM total
[1-32M by siemens{66mhz}
1-64M by ????{100mhz}

-I had this set-up running fine{w/hd,cdrom,vidcard,etc...ofcourse} with my P200 previously.
-Ok, so i put in k62 at clock-multi x5 & fsb100mhz. Had basic heatsink fancombo found on p200 system. System locked up fast and reset. So i went and got bigger hs/fan from compusa{didnt feel like waitn around}. That gave cpu about 25-30 minutes worth of time before fatal errors, blue screen, and lockup/resets. So went to nother store and got bigger hs/fan, supposedly would cool very well. That seemed to have fixed problem, but after 3hrs of use, Half-life would just die{boot me to desktop} and even just basic websurfing i get explorer crashes{fatal errors}. Also, when i shutdown windows, comp just resets rather than shutdown. Guy at comp store thought i was oc'ing, but i'm at 5x100 w/[email protected] 2.2V!!!! I was thinkin maybe motherboard doesn't support 5x100 very well or something. well, hope someone can help PLEASE!!!!! for more info, post here or email me please please please!!!!
 
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iAMDking

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hum sounds like vid card to me. or a remarked cpu. try running with case off. and is your ram pc100? try 450 and see wht that does. other then that i dunno.
 
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janzer

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Don't know how to tell if remarked...the place i got it from is pretty reliable. Running w/case off is no good, bad circulation. I ran chip at 300,400,500 to see results, and at lower mhz...system would run longer....problem is, the place i got it from{acs computers...askacs.com} doesn't guarantee cpu unless they mount it on a new mobo, wich sucks big time. Recently bought case fan{forget wich size sorry} to mount, but didn't cause i'm lazy. That would help in suckin in air to vent sys big time. Never thought that the vid card might be problem...its a trident 9600w/tvout{2mRam}...older card. And i put in my other post that i got two different speed ram...1 [email protected], and 1 [email protected] I guess i could try only the 64M, but like i said, the system ran perfect w/P200 in place. then again, p200 only run at 66fsb...need more suggestions...please please please!!!
 
AMDnut

AMDnut

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The first thing I would try is to remove your 32mb stick of 66mhz RAM. Then see how it does. Also, do you have any way of reading your CPU temps? If so, what are they? Did you use thermal paste on your heatsink? Also, does your mobo have the latest BIOS?
You need to monitor your temp somehow. If I don't have a sensor, I use a thin temp probe with my Sears Multimeter to take reading from the CPU and the heatsink where it meets the CPU. This will tell you if your processor is overheating.
Double check to make sure the heatsink is mated to the CPU well. Also, reseat your processor. If it's not seated properly, it will cause problems and higher heat. Another thing to try is, bump your voltage to 2.3v and see if it stablizes there. It's not a large increase and should not hurt anything. Quite a few people are having trouble with the 500's for various reasons so I really don't think you have a remarked chip. I think the 500's are just quirky processors!
Post back and let us know what you try and what happens!
 
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Tiberia

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Your PC-66 DIMM wont like 100Mhz much, so you will have stability issues with that alone.

As far as i know AMD havent remarked up to 500Mhz.

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AMDnut

AMDnut

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Ummm, forget my earlier question about your BIOS! I reread your post and see that you have the latest!
Damn, I need glasses or something!


[This message has been edited by AMDnut (edited 03-31-2000).]
 
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RAMmyBUS

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janzer, I THINK i might know what your prob is. If its not heat, then make sure you download a patch from microsoft for win 98( i assume thats what you got). This patch is for amd k6-2s above 350 mhz. I built a comp recently and what seems like heat problems were all fixed by this patch. Tell me if you can't find it.
-rambo

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dbzeag

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I am having that problem as well with the 500 K6-2. I am using PC 100 128 mb of RAM, newest BIOS upgrade. The temperature sensor, however, says I am running at 50C just at POST! Doing anything labor intensive locks muy system. I have a Cool3DFX heatsink (60X60X25) and 60mm fan on it. I also used theraml grease.
 
AMDnut

AMDnut

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RAMmyBUS - I think the patch your talking about is for Win95 only. I could be wrong, but I think it only applies to Win95.

dbzeag - 50c at boot is rather hot, how many case fans do you have? You should have a couple to help with cooling. Your heatsink sounds like it's big enough to handle the job, so I tend to think your ambient case temp might be high as well. A heatsink can only cool to a few degree's higher than the air around it. This is why additional case fans are required. They can remove the heated air inside the case, and draw cooler, fresh air into the case.
This is a longshot, but does your power supply fan blow out of the case? This is very important because most ss7 ATX mobo's have the socket/CPU sitting right next to or below the power supply and if the PS is blowing inward, the heated air from the PS will cause the CPU to run hotter. Most cases exhaust PS fans, but a few use the PS fans as intake fans also.
Hope this helps a little.


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dbzeag

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I have an 80mm fan in front of the chip (it is an AT board) The power supply is facing out. I have 3 fans to cool the hard drive. I have a full tower so there is a lot of ambient air to move around. I have a slot fan as well in the back to take out the hot air. I have tried posting with the case off and the temperature is pretty much the same. Is it just the chip? My 475 acted the same way, but a little bit cooler.
 
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Coldfusion

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i'm afraid my k6/2 450 does the same.
After about 30mins of gaming it locks up and runs very hot!
some proccesors produce more heat than others cos of there manurfacturing differences(week, plant)
bump up the voltage more or get a peltier.
if thats no good take the bitch back and get a new one!

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AndyK

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Coldfusion

If it's overheating the last thing it wants is more volts.
Higher voltage=More heat
 
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Jough

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I don't think overheating is the problem since you tried a better heatsink, lowered the clock, and are running at the standard 2.2 voltage, and experience problems after only a few minutes from a cold start. The PC66 RAM is a very good suspect. Another one is the motherboard. As I recall, some of the earlier 100 Mhz FSB mobos were not entirely stable at this speed. Try 5.5 x 83 or 5.5 x 95 if you have that setting. Maybe try the 2x setting in case it is remapped to 6x. I'd try the .1 volt increase first.
 
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janzer

New Member
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Thanks all, I got to find a way to check temp, but sure thats the culprit. Took out the 66mhz RAM, but no change. Didn't want to up V on it yet, i'll try diff fsb with clock multiplier...maybe production on this chip was bad or something. Unfortunately, can't take back...but will try to work something feasible out, since the mobo was free!! Thanks again!
 
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janzer

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Oh, forgot but i'm not experiencing problems after coldstart Jough...that was dbzeag. Up in an early post i said i was able to run for bout 3 hrs with no probs. But i'll try the diff fsb&x's. Thanks again!!
 
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stud100

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I believe the Vcore is 2.4 for amd k62- 450mhz and higher. If you bought the cpu in a box with a fan attached, the proper Vcore should be listeed on the fan hub. So maybe you need to change the Vcore. Only 400mhz and below supports 2.2 Vcore.
 
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YBSANE

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I have a 450 2.2v, it was running about 48c Started using waterfall and dropped 12c, put another fan on top of existing h/s fan and it now idles at 28, a little bit louder though.
 
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Dr. MASS

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Hmmm.. U guys having problems with 450, 500 Well I´m about to buy a 550 Mhz... Hmmm... It´s sounds like u get hold of remarked, but how to tell if the r fake or isn´t ???????????????????????????????????



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