Is it really wise to buy a Raptor now?

dman777

dman777

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Is it really wise to buy a Raptor now? The reason why I am asking is because a Raptor 75 gig costs $160.00. Now, Seagate has a 350 Gig HD with Perpindicular tech. for $130.00. Ok, now I know that the Raptor still beats the Seagate 7200.10...but not by that much. And being the fact that the Seagate 7200.10 is on the Sata 3gig bus, and the raptor has to be shared on the other sata bus which is shared with all the other periphels... and given such a huge price difference with only somewhat performance differences....wouldn't the Seagate 7200.10 be a better deal?
 
jankerson

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The Raptors cost more because they are 10,000 rpm drives while the others are 7200 rpm drives.
 
dman777

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Yeah...but with the new Perpindicular tech. the drive head doesn't have to move as much thus increaseing the speed and performance. Giveing the price difference and the performance gap has been narrowed between the Raptor and the Seagate 7200.10 signifacantly I think it might be a better buy to get the Seagate.
 
sjracer

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I have 2 74gig Raptors set up in a RAID 0. (See gaming system in my signature) I went all out on this system when I built it. I LOVE my raptors. But then in a RAID they are even better. Just personall opinion. My main system in my signature isnt too far off from the specs of my gaming system but I notice the difference. The main system is my wifes rig. Dont know if this helps, but I do like mine. They are expensive though.

SJRACER
 
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uart

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OK guys, lets not overlook the other important characteristic of all hard drives. Like how good mp3's sound when played from that hard drive or how clear jpg's look when opened from said hard drive. I know Raptors are fast and all, but my friends got one and all of the jpg's he opens from that drive look kind of pale and washed out. The same files look much more vibrant when he opens them from his old slow Seagate drive. Anyway he still uses the Raptor for a boot drive but he's had to move all his porn over to the Seagate becasue of the jpg problem. So dont forget to consider this in your decision.

:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p - the devil made me do it.
 
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jankerson

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uart said:
OK guys, lets not overlook the other important characteristic of all hard drives. Like how good mp3's sound when played from that hard drive or how clear jpg's look when opened from said hard drive. I know Raptors are fast and all, but my friends got one and all of the jpg's he opens from that drive look kind of pale and washed out. The same files look much more vibrant when he opens them from his old slow Seagate drive. Anyway he still uses the Raptor for a boot drive but he's had to move all his porn over to the Seagate becasue of the jpg problem. So dont forget to consider this in your decision.

:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p - the devil made me do it.

That's interesting. :confused:
 
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uart

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jankerson said:
That's interesting. :confused:
No I was just joking around. But Dman does really think that mp3's sound better on some HDD's than others, so why not jpegs looking better?
 
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woodman19_99

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I really like my Raptor 150... very quick boot times and everything... just throwing my opinion out there...
 
Midknyte

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You need to qualify what you think "wise" is. It's all subjective.

The raptor is still the fastest SATA drive. if you need max performance, that's the drive to get. Compare the raptor pricing to SCSI, and it looks like a bargain.

If you need more storage space, then get the seagate.

There is no "one size fits all" solution. I might be fine driving a BMW M3, but a soccer mom would want a minivan.
 
krupted

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i use a 74gb raptor for os and games, and everything else is thrown onto a couple larger disks, 200+gb each. this works great for me. the boot times for anything are hyper quick.
 
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Lex2004

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sjracer said:
I have 2 74gig Raptors set up in a RAID 0. (See gaming system in my signature) I went all out on this system when I built it. I LOVE my raptors. But then in a RAID they are even better. Just personall opinion. My main system in my signature isnt too far off from the specs of my gaming system but I notice the difference. The main system is my wifes rig. Dont know if this helps, but I do like mine. They are expensive though.

SJRACER
Hi SJRACER

I know for a fact that Raptor is the fastest SATA drive out there. And 74GB is fine for me for games. So far my 80GB Hitachi 7,200rpm is not used up yet. I am interested to know more about the Raid configuration which you have set up. Do you use it for games?

We all know that unless onboard RAM is running out, the OS won't otherwise consult the hard drive's swapfile. Now that you have your 2 Raptors raided to 0 mode which means basically parallel processing, does it also mean that I only have 74GB to play around with though I have a total of 148GB with 2 Raptors?
Thanks for the reply in advance.
 
Midknyte

Midknyte

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First off, the Raptor now comes in a 150G/16MB cache model.

RAID0 is STRIPING. You use both drives as one, so you still get full capacity. however, if the array breaks or one drive dies, you lose EVERYTHING. if you're gonna run RAID, you should have a third hdd for backup and data.
 
jankerson

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I think the best option is to get one Raptor 75 GB or 150 GB and another larger 7200 RPM for files, backup etc.

I am not a fan of Raid 0.
 
sjracer

sjracer

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Lex2004,

Sorry for the late response. Anyway as others have pointed out, Raid 0 is striping, so what I did is this. I put my two 74 gig raptors in a Raid 0, which gives me around 140 gig. Then when I installed windows I partitioned what windows thinks is one hard drive into two. I have my C drive, which I made 30 gig, with only the operating system, Office, Anti-Virus and Spyware prevention programs on it. The D drive has ALL my programs and games installed. THEN I have a 300 gig Maxtor that I use for storage. On that, I have all my important stuff, such as my email PST, pics, files and what not. It is all really preferance. But then computers are my hobby. I have 4 desktop systems that I built, one for me, one for the wife, and one for each of my boys (14 and 15) Then my laptop that I use when I go on trips (I am in the Air Force and travel quite a bit) Anyway I back up the more important files. I am a gamer, so of course my gaming rig is my pride and joy. I love it. Anyway the Raptors in a RAID have worked very well for me. I hope this answers some of your questions.


SJRACER
 
krupted

krupted

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sjracer- considering that you have the 300g maxtor as a constant backup, i like the way you run the two raptors. for me, i would install most of the programs onto the main partition. for one many programs like to be on C: drive and also, after a windows format you need to reinstall everything anyway for the registry entires.

games are different though, i almost never see a game that needs registry entries to run. i havent seen starforce game without a full install though....