CPU Ripoff

squall3k

squall3k

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#1
Ok so i was in this computer store yesterday and first i should tell ya that this is a store that sells cpus and m/b for about 100dollars more then they should be. Now with that said i was in there and they had just gotten a new shipment of AMD CPUs well one they had tagged as a "Athlon k7 600" now this is a socket chip and as we all know there are no socket cpus under 700 so i am like what the heck is this? the cabnate was open so i reached in and moved the tage and what was looking back at me? A duron 600. for how much? $149.99 they also had a 1gig t-bird for $349

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D|sElMiNk

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#2
You should buy that Duron and then sue them for emotional and economical damage


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squall3k

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#3
lol emotional!!



icompz.com had a duron 600 for $40 (well $50.75 after shipping and handling.) but 150?!?!? thats rediculous
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[This message has been edited by squall3k (edited 03-30-2001).]
 
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Arawak

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#4
You need to report this store to your local Consumer Affairs Department ASAP. Give them the full details of your discovery. Usually they send a person working undercover to investigate. You might want to call your local news channel as well. If you explain to them what happend, they will most likely start their own investigation. If they nail the story, they and you will be doing the community a great service.

What this store is doing is outright fraud.
These rip offs are the ones that can give a reputable business a bad name

Power to the Consumer

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squall3k

squall3k

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#5
I think i am going to do what Arwak said there is no way they can get away with that.

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Arawak

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#6
Sounds good. Consumers need to stand up for their rights more. By doing this it will force store owners to be fair with us.

Good Luck Bro

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Baloneyflaps

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#7
As long as they never actually SOLD someone a Duron as a K7, they haven't committed fraud. Of course they may have, but you don't know that.

It is just a display model. Face it, the chips look practically the same. It isn't a piece of furniture so the look is irrelevant. How often do you go into a store and look at a "display model" that is just an empty cabinet, or a non-functioning prop?

Every day. Go into almost any electronics store and you will see that. Only if and when they actually SELL someone a Duron 600 under the pretense that it was a K7 600 have they committed fraud.

Their prices may be high, but that isn't nearly the same thing as fraud. I doubt if you went in and said "I want to buy a K7 600." that they would hand you the Duron on display, or any Duron for that matter.

They may be committing fraud... but just because their display unit wasn't exactly what the tag said they have for sale is NO EVIDENCE that they have whatsoever.





[This message has been edited by Baloneyflaps (edited 03-31-2001).]
 
squall3k

squall3k

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#8
This is the exact chip they would hand you the ones they have on display are the exact ones they sell you i konw cause i bought my t-bird 700 from them and that they sold me as a k7 cause they said that they dont make k7s under 750 MHZ so these guys are really dumb.

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Gomez Addams

Gomez Addams

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#9
The original Athlon, the Thunderbird, and the Duron are all K7 processors since they use the same core and differ only in cache. The trouble lies in calling it an Athlon.

I was just checking http://www.amd.com and they don't actually use the term K7 in any of the product description pages for the Athlon or Duron.

Here is a link AMD's pricing page : http://www.amd.com/news/virtualpress/pricing.html
It's kind of interesting. Of course, the prices listed are in lots of 1000.



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squall3k

squall3k

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#11
The Actula Discreption was


AMD Athlon k7 600MHZ
price 149

and we all know that there is not such thing as a athlon 600 socket processor

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Baloneyflaps

Baloneyflaps

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#12
Uh, let me explain this again-- unless and UNTIL they SELL (yes-- SELL!!) a Duron 600 to someone under the pretense that it is an Athlon K7 600, then IT IS NOT FRAUD!!

You HAVE NOT SEEN THEM DO THIS... and THEY HAVE NOT DONE IT TO YOU, thus YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT THEY DO!

This is the exact chip they would hand you the ones they have on display are the exact ones they sell you i konw cause i bought my t-bird 700 from them
Uh, you don't really think this helps your argument, do you? Since you got EXACTLY WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE BUYING, doesn't that seem to indicate that they DON'T SELL DURONS TO PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY ARE BUYING ATHLONS?

Jeez... your logic doesn't make sense here! You just said that you bought an Athlon 700! Why didn't they give you a Duron 700?

Your purchase shows me that they sell people what they think they are paying for!
 
squall3k

squall3k

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#13
Look Baloneyflaps the point is they have no clue what they are selling and dont deserve to be selling people parts that they have no clue what they actuly are. When i bought my 700 t-bird the price wasent listed on their price list i asked them what it was they told me it was a duron i pointed out to them that it clearly said athlon on the core but he told me it was the same thing.

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Admin

Admin

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#14
This is the same thing as vendors who sold "Pentium III 566 MHz" computers, which were obviously Celerons. Since no Pentium III exists in this speed, they were simply trying to make the systems more saleable.

I do find the practice reprehensible though.
 
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Arawak

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#15
Baloneyflaps, you are mistaken. squall3k is saying that the chip he saw is in a case from which the vendor sells his stock. As he explains it, there is no distinction between the display chips and the ones being sold to the public. With this in mind, if the vendor has intentionally mismarked the chips, then he can be charged with "intent to defraud". He does not have to actually sell a chip in order to be charged with a crime.
It falls into the same catagory as a car dealer sticking an ABS (Anti-lock Braking System) emblam on the dash of a car knowing it does not have ABS. He does not have to sell the car, just fact of advertising it as such is in itself committing fraud.

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DuronDude

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If you report it to a consumer org they would probably go into the store and buy it, after they get sold a Duron for an Athlon they'll have plenty of actually criminal facts to report
I really hate stores like this, cos the victims are ppl not too familiar with computers, and I hate to see ppl waste money and don't even know it

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