Are my temps too high?

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Pikachu

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Hey guys, my system specs will be in the signature. I am wondering if 60-65 C was too hot for my CPU... Anyway, Thanks for any input

-Pikachu


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T-Bird 1.4ghz
KG7-Raid
512meg PC-2100DDR
NVidia GeForce 3
4x IBM Deskstar 30 gig
Hercules GTXP
Netgear FA310TX NIC
TDK 24/10/40 CD-RW
Creative 12x DVD-Rom
Enermax 450w PSU
WinXP Pro
 
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Ivman679

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#2
A computer that is at school that I built with a T-Bird 1.2 is about that. With stock heatsink and fan. As well as a cramped up case, it runs around 55c at boot up. It probably gets up to around 60-65c when we are actually running applications. At first I was really worried about it because I didn't know that was supposed to be that high. I was thinking that the processor was going to fry or something. Hehe, but then I made a post here and the guys said it was ok and I did a little research. So, from what I know it is ok. But don't take my word for it for sure.


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MuFu

MuFu

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If you are using anything better than the stock HS/fan combo then that's way too high.

I'm running a T-Bird [email protected], KG7-RAID, 512MB [email protected]0Mhz, IBM Deskstar 75GXP 30gig, ATI Radeon VIVO etc...; almost the exact same setup as you, and my temps are about 42 idle, 52 load with a Thermoengine, ASII and quiet 80mm fan.

MuFu.

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Kozakowski

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Actually, you might start to notice stability problems with the CPU if the temps increase.

If the temperatures start to rise over 55C, something's not right. AMD Athlon Tbirds do run hot, therefore require ample cooling of the CPU, and it's case.

If you can, add a case fan or two. This will help with the air flow around the CPU, hopefully bringing down temps. Another thing you could try is to apply some thermal compound, namely Arctic Silver II. If that's not available, apply your average computer shop thermal compound. Please read my posts here http://discussions.hardwarecentral.com/Forum11/HTML/017014.html for instructions on how to do this.

The general rule of thumb for Athlon CPUs, even the new XPs, is to provide good cooling. This means having a large case with more than the one power supply fan; a good heatsink and fan, this means not the stock HSF that comes with the CPU; thermal compound for added cooling (those darn thermal pads are really for show
); and lastly, the PC should be in room with a comfortable ambient temp. You'll notice some computer rooms are just sweltering - that's a no no! So if that room of your's is generally perdy warm, this might be the cause of your ails.

Hope this helps.

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Pikachu

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Well, as far as case and cooling is concerned, I have a Coolermaster ATC/s 201 Case, and a Coolermaster Heatsink (Nothing too special). With the case, I have 2 intake and 2 exhaust fans. The temps rose due to my new computer desk. It is solid oak and has the cubby hole for the box. I am debating taking it out of the cuby hole, but I have no idea how much the temps rose because I was never worried about temps before now. Anyway, I think I am gonna take the case out of the cubby hole and check my temps again, I will repost my temps when I get around to actually moving it. Thanks for all the help so far.

-Pikachu


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T-Bird 1.4ghz
KG7-Raid
512meg PC-2100DDR
NVidia GeForce 3
4x IBM Deskstar 30 gig
Hercules GTXP
Netgear FA310TX NIC
TDK 24/10/40 CD-RW
Creative 12x DVD-Rom
Enermax 450w PSU
WinXP Pro
 
Raccoon

Raccoon

Slacker
#6
Hey, try my cooling solution! My temps were like 60°C+ (full load), so i tried lowering the voltage a bit. Result: 52°C, full load.

It's free, and it works great.
Give it a shot if you like.

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Pikachu

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Well, What did you lower your voltage to? What kind of chip were you using?

-Pikachu

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KG7-Raid
512meg PC-2100DDR
NVidia GeForce 3
4x IBM Deskstar 30 gig
Hercules GTXP
Netgear FA310TX NIC
TDK 24/10/40 CD-RW
Creative 12x DVD-Rom
Enermax 450w PSU
WinXP Pro
 
Todd a

Todd a

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No. You can get some low RPM fans if you have a good heatsink. Remember he is trying to get the temps into a more comfortable range. 65'C is pretty hot and my Duron 600 had troubly at 950Mhz unless I kept the temps below 55'C. Most good heatsinks with a medium noise fan will keep the temps below 45-50'C.

Soem people are having really good luck with soem of the higher end ones like the new Alpha and Swiftech monstes with a low RPM 80mm fan or an SK-6 with a slower 60mm fan.

Never settle for extra noise if you do not have to. Also a few nice case fans can make a hugh differance. Of coarse these can be noisy too, so pick carefully. I generally stay below 30db for any one fan. Maybe 35 for the CPU fan at most.

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Telcoman

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#10
I think it's way too hot. Try a software cooler: VCool. It works exceedingly well. It's also free. It DOES work on the KG7 too. http://www.voodoofiles.com/4640

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MuFu

MuFu

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#11
Jeezz... VCool is amazing, thanks for the link! I always used to use Rain, but then that's pretty crap with Durons/Athlons. My temps are now 29C idle/45 load. Compare that to what I posted before. Strange that the load temp is lower, I always thought software coolers worked on idle temps only. Oh well... I'm not complaining.


Wonder if it'll help me reach that elusive 1.5GHz mark.

MuFu.

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Telcoman

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I think it's pretty cool too! Just read all the help notes to understand how it works. It might slow down some gaming.


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Todd a

Todd a

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It should work if the programmer has ipdated it to work on any KT266 or KT266A board. It uses a modification to a system registry that basically forces it into a sleep mode every on un-used CPU cycles. Surfing the net will run at the same temps as sleep mode basically. I use CPUCool and it does the same thing. This will not effect your load temps, but does wonders on your idle temps. My temps dropped about 8'C idle.

As for your cubby hole, you could cut a hole in the back to let the heat out. That is what I did with my desk. It makes it easyer to run the wires and work on things back there. But your other problem is the heatsink. Most Cooler Master heatsinks are pretty bad. The only problem is that most performance heatsinks are very noisy. You must choose carefully when getting a heatsink now adays. You might have to get a high end heatsink like an SK-6 and slap a slower fan on it to get good cooling at a resonable volume.

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AthlonXP 1600+
FOP32-1 Mod'd w/ 80mm
Epox 8KHA+
256MB Crucial DDR266
GeForce2 GTS (210/410)
Sound Blaster Audigy
Antec SX-630 Case (mod'd)
TTGI TT-350-SS 370w PS
 
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Pikachu

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#15
Ok, guys, I moved my case out of the desk, threw my thermaltake Dragon orb III on there and my temps dropped to around 49C with full load... Is this more realistic? The noise is terrible!!! I think I need to find a differant HSF that cools good but is not obnoxiously loud.. Or just start buying my stuff fo a water cooler. Anyway, Any suggestions on a good HSF?

-Pikachu

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T-Bird 1.4ghz
KG7-Raid
512meg PC-2100DDR
NVidia GeForce 3
4x IBM Deskstar 30 gig
Hercules GTXP
Netgear FA310TX NIC
TDK 24/10/40 CD-RW
Creative 12x DVD-Rom
Enermax 450w PSU
WinXP Pro
 
Todd a

Todd a

New Member
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Does it work with the KT266 chipset though. It is basically the same chipset. For that matter it is likely the same as the KT133A with a differant memory controller. Tyhe registry settings for CPU Halt mode should be the same.

They have released a new version (7.03 or something like that). They are having problems with people hacking the registration instead of paying the small $13 fee. You have to send them the registration code and they e-mail the program. I also asked them if it supports the KT266A chipset. Hopefully I will get the new version and the answer tommarow.

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AthlonXP 1600+
FOP32-1 Mod'd w/ 80mm
Epox 8KHA+
256MB Crucial DDR266
GeForce2 GTS (210/410)
Sound Blaster Audigy
Antec SX-630 Case (mod'd)
TTGI TT-350-SS 370w PS
 
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Telcoman

New Member
#19
VCool supports VIA chipsets but not AMD and maybe not the others. The KG7 uses both VIA and AMD, and as noted in the help files VCool will still run with a small sacrifice for AMD. I use it on this KG7 with an SK6 and 80mm fan and funnel. Noise is quite bearable. VCool also displays CPU temp and System temp in the tray icon at all times which is nice. I switched from CPUidle to VCool happily. Right now my Sys temp is 27C, cpu 25C! 1G TBird @ 1.53G. Worth a try.

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GunFodder

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I used to have a GW FOP32-1 on a 1Ghz Tbird and my peak temp was about 45C. I switched to an Antec JetCool and now my peak temp is still about 45C, but my computer is MUCH quieter. This cooler would probably barely work for a 1.4Ghz Tbird.