AMD 980G Chipset & AMD's next socket

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Quatroux

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I'm confused by AMD's web site that proudly details the amazing benefits of using their integrated 980G chipset (http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/chipsets/9-series-integrated/Pages/amd-980g-chipset.aspx). It is part of their newest Series 9 chipsets and is the only part of the series that has integrated video. However, you can't buy a motherboard with this chipset. It isn't listed as an option on PCPartPicker.com or even AMD's own online store.

I searched and searched only to find that Lenovo once sold a desktop PC with the 980G. Their M77 came with your choice of a Phenom II X2 or Athlon II X2. It would be a really nice PC for your average business user. Specs are here: http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/desktop/thinkcentre/m-series/m77/M77_Datasheet.pdf

Some further digging shows that Lenovo used a Planar motherboard (so much for buying one yourself): http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/product-and-parts/detail.page?DocID=PD021601

A smart fella over on Anandtech's forums posted a potential answer to the question of where the 980G disappeared to. You can read it here: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2217975

The basics are that the 980G got lost in the shuffle between getting out the new Series 9 chipsets for the AM3+ gamers and the FM1-based A-Series APU's for those looking for integrated graphics. The 880G is still around, meets the needs of the market, and AMD will likely continue to milk it for all it is worth. After that, you go FM2 or AM3+ with a different chipset.

This takes us to the future of AMD. Tom's Hardware posted a roadmap update earlier this year and we've since seen AM3+ and FM2 ship. Anyway, it is here: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/FM1-FM2-AM3-AM3-AMD,21912.html

What's next? I really don't think AMD knows. They've had a rough go of it lately and changes in management haven't produced anything yet. What do you folks think?
 
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glussier

glussier

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I think that socket am3+ is at the end of it's line. The future for AMD is APUs. At the beginning of next year you'll be able to purchase a motherboard with socket FM2+ and a new Steamroller FM2+ Kaveri apu.

People are going, more and more, mobile and low power, and AMD has decided to follow this trend.
 
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Quatroux

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Sounds right - passes the smell test. Thanks for the reply.

Intel and AMD have both integrated the northbridge into their cpu's, but the hardcore gamers have still had other options. I wonder how it looks a year or two from now. Will AMD be 100% integrated, but still leave you the option to use discrete graphics? If so, will they benchmark very good? If not, will Intel follow or hold off and claim 100% of the enthusiast crowd?
 
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Quatroux

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I guess this is a non-event. I've spent too much time on AMD's web site. It simply isn't a good site. There's no information about their APU chipsets (ex: A88X). There's no information on their latest processors (ex: A10-6800). If you want to buy a new A10, you can't get the part number form the 6000-series off of AMD's web site. You don't know if it is Black Edition, OEM, or PIB except by dissecting the part number on your own. Get on to motherboard selection and deciding between chipsets is simply a practice in comparing mobo features.

I went on Intel's site for the first time in years and it was a bit better. There are still plenty of CPU's on the market with little to no corresponding specifications listed on Intel.com. I think the only thing I really learned is that Intel went with integrated graphics as well which I somehow missed. The processors they sell without integrated graphics simply have the feature disabled on the chip which is possibly because of a fabrication error or just to lower the price to compete with AMD.

The enthusiast market appears to be in a very bad place.
 
equinoxe3d

equinoxe3d

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I went on Intel's site for the first time in years and it was a bit better. There are still plenty of CPU's on the market with little to no corresponding specifications listed on Intel.com.
http://ark.intel.com/ ;)


I think the only thing I really learned is that Intel went with integrated graphics as well which I somehow missed. The processors they sell without integrated graphics simply have the feature disabled on the chip which is possibly because of a fabrication error or just to lower the price to compete with AMD.

The enthusiast market appears to be in a very bad place.
If you are in the enthusiast market you might want to take a look at the Socket 2011 platform. It does not feature integrated graphics and have both quad and hexacore models, with more PCIe lanes available. Sadly, since the platform is used for workstations and servers and needs to last longer, the architecture is one year behind the mainstream CPUs (Ivy Bridge E vs Haswell) and the motherboards are even more dated by two years (no native USB3, only 2 SATA-3 ports). Outside of tasks requiring tri or quad-GPU setups or hexacore CPUs, it's often considered not worth it compared to the mainstream platform.