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    G2 Ultra or G3 Ti 200?

    I noticed today taht Newegg.com has a Gainward and Pny G3 Ti 200 video card for $162 plus shipping. I am wondering whether I should buy a G2 Ultra or one of the above mentioned cards? I realize the Geforce 3 has more of a future than the G2 Ultra, but if I can find an Ultra for noticeably less, I would like to save the money. Will I see a difference between the two? What do you guys recommend? Thanks in advance.

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    Depends on how much you want to spend and how soon you want to upgrade again. The Geforce 3 Ti 200 will be better than a Geforce 2 Ultra, so of course it will cost more. But if you are planning to jump on the Geforce 4 Bandwagon in 6 months, the Ultra may make more sense. Even a GTS is a decent upgrade from an MX card. (I have made that upgrade- twice!) Another "cost effective" option would be a Geforce 2 Ti, which is supposed to pretty much equal the Ultra but is based on the newer core and is cheap. You can get them for as little as $95 for the 32 MB version and around $106 for the 64 MB version. Should be around 20% faster than the GF2 Pro cards.
    Good Luck
    PS any of the 3 alternatives will give better performance at higher resolution than your old MX card. Just depends on how much you want to spend. (I would go for the Geforce 2 Ti, as I feel it represents the most bang for the buck, and I am cheap)
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    LOL! I am cheap too, that is why I can't make up my mind! I'll look into the G2 Ti and go from there. What kind of perfomance hit will I experience with the G2 Ti? I have to say I am rather confused with the current offerings. As far as getting G2 Ultra performance or above, do I have to overclock the G2 Ti? I really want to crank games up to the 1280x1024 resolution, which definitely makes a difference, but right now I just can't get frame rates high enough for my satisfaction. I should point out, I am still using Win 98, and I usually play at 16 bit. I should ask one last question: how much of a visual difference do you see with the various upgrades you have made? Obviously, benchmarks show large increases, but when comparing benchmarks, what difference in numbers does it become obvious, or is it just mainly at very high res? By the way, thanks for the suggestions.

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    I believe the GF2 Ti is the replacement for the GF2 Ultra and offers very comparable performance. I know it has the core clocked at 250 Mhz, and I believe they have 4.0 ns ram running at 400Mhz. I have read of people overclocking the ram to 450 or 500 depending on the card manufacturer. I also found a GF2Ti for $89 for the 64 MB version. Check it out at: http://direct.mwave.com/mwave/doc2/a15780.html
    I would trust the A-Open card since I had one of their Geforce 2 MX cards and it ran real well, even with the ram overclocked to 200 Mhz (up from 166 default). I actually paid $20 more for that MX card than you can get the GF2Ti for! What a difference a year makes!
    Now the GF3 Ti200 is supposed to be the best "high performance" bang for the buck. But then it is $80 more than the GF2Ti, or almost double. However it does offer the latest Geforce 3 features including some DirectX 8 support that none of the GF2's offer. I guess that is for you to decide. I don't mind being 6 months late with technology if it enables me to enjoy more of it. I paid $128 for my 64 MB GF2 Pro card by waiting 6 months after its' introduction. They were like $250 when they first came out. I am willing to wait 6 more months to get a GF3 Ti200, if they will drop to my $125 price target in that time. I wish I would have waited 3 more months and grabbed a GF2 Ti instead of buying the pro, but then we all have 20/20 hindsight.
    To answer your questions to the best of my knowledge:
    What kind of perfomance hit will I experience with the G2 Ti? Well, some, but then you are also somewhat processor limited, too. (As I am )
    As far as getting G2 Ultra performance or above, do I have to overclock the G2 Ti? No, the GF2Ti is very close to the Ultra at default, and should exceed it if successfully overclocked.
    how much of a visual difference do you see with the various upgrades you have made?
    Going from the MX to the GTS gained about 800 3DMarks in 3DMark 2001, and a noticeable improvement in frame rates especially in 32 bit color. Intense games like Max Payne were much smoother even at higher resolution and detail levels. Going from the GTS to the Pro was a much smaller gain, probably due to my "slow" processor. Which again leads me to the GF2Ti, were I in your shoes. And if the compgeeks oem visiontek GTS card I bought 3 months ago continues to give me problems, I might very well BE in your shoes.
    Chuck
    PS Found a great link for you comparing the various GF3 cards: http://www.3dspotlight.com/reviews/h...ne/index.shtml

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    Hey found another excellent comparison of the GF2Ti vs the GF3Ti200: http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/vidca...f3ti200_gf2ti/

    This one goes in depth, showing the differences and the surprisingly good performance of the GF2Ti. It actually outperformed the Ti200 on the Madonion 3DMark 2000 bench which is DirectX 7 based. It is very interesting.
    Chuck

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    Thanks Chuck for the web reviews, I really appreciate it. Like you said, I would save $80 and still not be half the performance, so therefore, the G2 Ti is a much better value. The funny thing is, I will probably never buy state-of-the-art because I am cheap, or as I tell my friends, "I'm a bottom feeder." (I am a little bit of a fisherman)
    It will be interesting to see what the G3 Ti 500 costs in a year when the Geforce 4 comes out, and is no long the speed champ.
    Again, thanks for the suggestions and web links.

    Jeff

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