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  1. #1
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    Graph card for 3D apps

    Ok here s the stuff:

    I got a ****ty PC for 500$: HP pavilion 4410 with AMD K6-2 3dnow 333mhz and sis5598 chipset
    I ve changed SDRAM from 32mb 66mz to 256mb 100mz

    Well, I run 3dSTUDIO MAX 3.0 with it, under windows 2000 pro
    The 3d app could support open gl and direct 3D.
    So far I don t have any aditionnal graphic hardware and I d like to know which kind of card may I buy (for about 200 dollars) that both match my system limits and improves my 3d rendering. I ve been told about voodoo3pci 2000
    anyone?

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    Yes, the Voodoo3 2000 is a good choice for your system. Since its not very processor dependent, it won't need to rely much on your K6-2 333. And it supports D3D, OpenGL and glide. The best news is it'll only run you about $80!

    Oh, one more thing. Since you've got $120 left over, get a K6-2 500 for $45 if your mobo will support it. If not, get a replacement mobo too. Lots of choices available in either AT or ATX format for $70 to $80.

    [This message has been edited by Dave_B (edited 05-01-2000).]
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    Thanks very much, I go shopping tomorrow!

    though, if ever I d only buy the voodoo but neither the cpu nor the mobo, does it still improve the pictures rendering calculation time or does it just for the viewports display while I m working? needless to say that with 145000 meshes and 2500 frames I m rather interrested in the rendering time (average 9 minutes per frame so far!!)
    Also do I have to disable my regular display adapter or such kinda tricks?




    [This message has been edited by titooo (edited 05-01-2000).]

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    What you told that man is NOT right bro. Saying the voodoo suports OpenGL is like saying An nvidia "supports" Glide. yeah, sure, but...it blows. Then again, he's only doing it for apps..so does it matter....**sigh**

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    OK iixus, the problem is I can't think of any card I could really say runs OpenGL that well. I don't think you can either because you didn't name one.

    [This message has been edited by Dave_B (edited 05-02-2000).]
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    TNT2 anyone? WAY better OpenGL though I don't know how the price is these days...

    Graphics cards only affect viewport drawing times, not rendering speed. I think you'd be better off getting a faster CPU than a 3D card. If you have a lot of polygons a 3D card won't do you any good unless you get a geforce(1/2).
    "No doubt the truth, as usual, would be somewhere between the extremes" -Arthur C Clarke

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    Woh... it s about time somebody answers.. I was to buy it today..
    So I ll have to deal with the CPU.. geez, it s not like a plug n play gfx card..


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    Actually if I were you I'd change the CPU to a PIII or celeron (and a motherboard to fit). The K6-2 (and probably K6-3 too) has a lousy FPU i.e. lousy 3D performance.
    "No doubt the truth, as usual, would be somewhere between the extremes" -Arthur C Clarke

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    Unless I'm mistaken, professional 3D packages do their own software rendering, not use the 3D card. I know of no video card that can do proper ray tracing in hardware anyway. I.e., you would probably indeed benefit more from a better CPU than from the biggest meanest 3D card. Dunno, the Voodoo should be enough, anyway.

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    You would benefit more for ma processor upgrade more than a video card right now, and go for a P2, P3 or Coppermine. Celerons are waaay slower than P2 and 3 for 3d applications. I run a celly for games but i cannot hang in applications. I recently bought a 550ECoppermine running at 733 with 384 MB of ram for runnign 3dsmax, with a TNT2, which runs fine. Afte seeing the Geforce2 and Quadro at Winhec, I am goign to get a Geforce2GTS. Avoid any consumer company other than Nvidia for 3d applications.
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    thanx guys..
    I indeed will upgrade CPU and Mobo as soon as I can afford. the problem is I have a Pavilion HP 4410 and the other components are quite hard to match with anythin else than what has been done..
    If anyone has similar crappy computer and successfully upgrade the cpu-mobo, my ears are opened.
    in the meantime i launched my 4000 frames animation with 200000 meshes.. 3 minutes/a frame..Cooling bags all over the case!!

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