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    Tribute to the pope

    noticed there has been no thread about this.

    just a thread to pay tribute to one of the greatest men that ever lived.

    Pope John Paul II passed away on the 2nd April 2005.
    The world will miss a truly great man.
    May he rest in peace.

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    I will 2nd that.

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    ive never really understood the whole pope thing but hey, im an arrogant american

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    Some arrogant Americans are Catholic too.

    It'll be fun, the last of the old schoolers just went down & the Catholic Church will now become enlightened.
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    All of his live he fought against two evils.
    One of, as he saw it, dictatorship in the name of communism and one of capitalistic greed.

    Its only in the latter days of his life that, as I see it, he uderstood it was the much lesser evil that was conquered.

    He has done a lot since to make up for that shortfall and was among other things the only important world leader who vehemently opposed both US-Iraq wars.

    He was a brave man and died as a brave men and for that I respect him.

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    Originally posted by F_A_L_C_O_N
    Its only in the latter days of his life that, as I see it, he uderstood it was the much lesser evil that was conquered.
    Excuse me?
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    There won't be no change with a new pope as they have to carry out the truth of what christ said, ten commandments as has been done for 2000yrs., this will never change, its pretty straightforward.

    He was like the last of the good ones who was there to see the atrocities from decades past and knows what evil is, not to say a new pope wouldn't know just he knew it well. Sorry to see him go.

    Heard he was the only person to get the 2 soccer teams from krakow together in peace or something like that.

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    Originally posted by MetalGod
    Excuse me?
    No you are not excused

    If you dont know, understand or dont agree with what I am talking about no need for that kind of reply

    state your case, say you disagree or let it be

    and yes rangeral his whole life was influenced by the war and thats why I wrote what I did and I actually know a bit on the subject, however it was not my intention to go any futher with this discussion, neither will I do so now.
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    Originally posted by F_A_L_C_O_N
    If you dont know, understand or dont agree with what I am talking about no need for that kind of reply

    state your case, say you disagree or let it be
    That's what the term EXCUSE ME is for...I'm not sure what you meant. I believe I know but before it gets interesting, clarification is in order.
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    Sorry then, I though it was meant rather more confrontational.

    Anyways its a bit of a touchy subject thats why I said I have no intention of going into discussion.

    Still if you want to know more and see what I meant (not that you have to agree with me), check his early speeches, especially what he talked about in the early 80s and then the latter part of his life and what he had to say especially on the subject of both fore mentioned wars.
    Suffice to say he was not happy with the direction the world was heading to.
    One might even say he fealt betrayed and I am quite certain catholic church feels betrayed.

    But be as it may they meassure history in 100s of years while most politicians have a limited 5 year shelf life.

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    Could use a political post rather than air anything on this tribute, if you want to get the ball rolling falcon I'm in, no arguiing about it just point and counter and if your versed enough with proper subject matter there could be some interesting info to get out of it. Any political majors out there, ha. This should be good.

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    Originally posted by F_A_L_C_O_N
    All of his live he fought against two evils.
    One of, as he saw it, dictatorship in the name of communism and one of capitalistic greed.

    Its only in the latter days of his life that, as I see it, he uderstood it was the much lesser evil that was conquered.


    I would tend to agree with that as I believe that Capitalistac greed is far worse than Communism could ever be....

    And GREED is one of the 7 Deadly Sins.

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    Originally posted by jankerson
    I would tend to agree with that as I believe that Capitalistac greed is far worse than Communism could ever be....

    And GREED is one of the 7 Deadly Sins.
    Maybe you ought to peruse this before recalling communism as a beacon of hope & light.
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    Originally posted by MetalGod
    Maybe you ought to peruse this before recalling communism as a beacon of hope & light.

    Ahhhh... I never said it was the beacon of hope and light.

    I was in the Marines in the early 80's so I know what Communism is, and there is nothing positive about it at all.

    My point was that Greed is far worse as it takes over everything in time.

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    What do we do with the 98% who aren't overly greedy in a capitalistic system? Greed doesn't overtake capitalism. Capitalism is self-leveling. Once the average is priced out of the market, it isn't long before profits drop & prices lower. Supply & Demand shadows greed everytime.

    Tyranny is greedy. Communism is greedy. Socialism is greedy. Capitalism is the fairest that we know. Everybody has an equal chance to succeed.
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