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    Where has everyone gone?

    i've been thinking about this for a while now.. but when i first started looking at this site about a year before i actually registered... long before internet.com bought them.. (pentium 2 era) it was so popular... there were people on all the time. you could get an answer on the forums in minuites.. i've noticed a large decline since internet.com "bought the place". i was wondering where else you guys are goin these days? what are the popluar forums?
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    Well there was a sharp decline following the OT experiment followed by a slow steady decline since.

    Of course decline in activity isnt necessarily a decline in quality.

    However, with the decline in activity came a decline in membership by such a margin that a decline in quality inevitably followed.

    As an anaology.

    Its was kinda like the playstation video game system. Yes it had more crappy games than any other system on the shelves.....but it had sooo many more games total that it had the best games in every genre virtually by default......

    Contrast that to the Nintendo...which struggles so hard to get games out period that while many of the games are quality titles...and there is less crap out there for that system....in the end it fails in virtually every category just because it doesnt have the momentum...

    Same is true for HWC and the fall out when off topic came and went.

    Look around though and you can find hwc members still active in forums both hardware related and otc scattered to the winds across the net.
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    That, and the PC market is a heck of a lot less exciting than it was in the P2 era. Remember when people used to wonder if the next speed grade was coming in the next month? Now it's the next half, or even the next year...
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    Man, what happened at OT central? I visited it a few times, but it didn't really seem to fit me.

    My thoughts on why things are quieter:

    1. Less news in the hardware world. We haven't seen a significant speed boost in some time. GPUs are an exception, but they are high-priced exceptions.

    2. We've been on WinXP since 2001. Heck, I'll say it--it's not that bad of an OS! Nothing like NT4 or WinME. Not only that, it seems like quite a few will jump all over the hardcore MS bashers.

    3. Hardware that's 2 years old will still run 90% of today's software well enough. No need to ask if your 2.4ghz P4 is fast enough for email--the question rarely comes to mind.

    4. The newness of the PC has worn off. When I joined in 2001, I new very little. From my own experience, there just isn't as much to learn, so there isn't as much to discuss. With the trivial/insignificant product launches we've been seeing lately, the best we can do is speculate about the future. Some of us enjoy the speculation, but I think a lot of others don't want to bother.

    5. Decline in Fanboyism. I think that for the most part, people have given up arguing for their 3-5% superiority in a few synthetic benchmarks. It's such a tired battle. The best that people can do is take a few cheap shots. Heck, half the time the "other side" beats them to the punch!

    I keep visiting, if only to learn a little bit more. I've learned a lot here, enough to put most of my freinds and coworkers in awe. I can't talk computers with them, as they have no clue what the hell I'm talking about.
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    I agree with all the assesments made so far. I would like to add that in the earlier years, there were more issues when building a computer.

    Frequently drivers and bios and card combinations had to be "just so" in order to have a well working rig.

    Now days, it is much easier to make a rig work well and therefore, fewer people have issues posted here.

    The issue of the performance king between AMD and Intel is no longer arguable. It is well known what Intel excells at and what AMD excells at and few care to pound that dead horse any more.

    We all would love to have more to talk about; however, there really isn't much going on these days. We are all currently waiting on the release of AMD's new process and their SSE3 implementation as well as Intel's 2Mb L2 P4 and finally dual processors from both Intel and AMD. That is IT for the rest of 2005!

    So we few that stick around and gossip loyaly await a day like that of the past where there was lots to discuss
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    I think that more people are solving their own problems using google now. That or they hate us
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    That or they hate us
    If so many people even know who we are, we should start a political movement.

    Maybe one based on adding India and Brazil to the security council and moving to a two-nation minimum for veto. That would essential remove the paralysis that has made the UN and global government a joke. With some real decision-making ability, the UN ought to start handling touche situations like North Korea and Saddam. That way the US could mostly stay home (which could save us some money and a load of good will) without the world becoming a giant free-for all. Who need Globo-cop if you've got an effective neighborhood watch.

    I think it's a position that could sell to almost anybody. Far right: lower taxes, more isolation; Far Left: we don't have to be the ones toppling the pseudo-socialist states they admire.
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    It declined because of me! Remember? . Ah yes, the good ol days, I joined Jan of 99, and do I remember the amount of posts. Every single time you hit refresh there was a new post it seems. I remember the old time people like Baloneyflaps, Rogue Gunman, and on and on. I remember the ICQ Activelist, and that was interesting. I remember a lot, sometimes it was flame wars, either involving mole or myself, or others. I remember serb2 talking about guns, and shooting things sorry alex. It was hilarious ****, considering people were flipping out over silicon! The p3 craze, crapperpine, papermine, etc etc. I've been here for a while, left at times, but never really got involved in other boards. But ya know what we need, is a flame war. So with that said.


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    All specs are culled just prior to posting. It has gotten a little slow around here.

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    wow i havent seen some of those names in a long time.. i remember the ICQ active list.. i was on it but not so active... who was it that had the supercharged dodge? i remember talking to one of the reg's about it.. i never did post much.. but my grandpa always used to say "you can't learn anything with your mouth open".. except my girlfriend.. she must have done alot of learing with her mouth open cause she's got skillz :0

    i agree pc's have had alot of the issues resolved.. also overclocking doens't seem as popular these days cause systems are already so fast.. i miss the days of a 300@450 or 366@550 those were nice overclocks..

    anyone else remember Pkiachu? his sample P4.... did we ever figure out if he really had one?

    hoyle i agree... the UN seems to be irrelivent these days.. unable to police the world because of petty political BS.. and our govenment is worse yet... what happened to "for the people"? the people that are in charge of our country are "for there careers" i'm not blamin bush.. i voted for him simply because kerry is a *****. its the system as a whole.. i'm not saying do away with democracy.. but we need a better way of getting people into office that are going to get things done.. banning lawyers from office would be a good start i think.. they work under our laws for so long they know all the little catches.. then when they get into office they change the laws to there liking KNOWING there going to have to work under those laws again (because office isnt for life).. with the current direction the US is going.. i can't help but feel like were a blindfolded little boy trying to hit the pinyata that someone keeps pulling out of the way..

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    Man, now I feel old. Those names, plus the post. I have been a lurker/slow poster for years.

    I would rather have the smaller, tigher group than a bunch of kids throwing out answers, that make no sense what so ever.

    A lot have to do with the sheer number of boards, and different sites. I have stuck here, because it has been so hard to find a quality site.

    Also I even remember the Sander Sassen stuff from a long while back.

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    I was looking back trying to find old processor clockspeed predictions and i came up with a few old names ..


    Geoff, Jollyroger, Deanril, Zakar, dmm, StuTheWise

    Jeffy i found this

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    ^--- 5-28-1999

    also.. How many of you guys used to play games and share files on BBS's back in the day? i think i was 12 or so when i started playing LORD and BRE on the local boards.. running windows 3.1 on my 386.. text based internet.. those were the days
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    I had a cousin that shared files on BBS and I frequently left his house with stacks of floppies with programs on them

    Ahh. Those were the days.

    I first posted here when having troubles with my FIC Socket7 MB using my shiney new K6 333. I had an ATI Rage Pro graphics accelerator and wanted to know how to enable hardware acceleration so I could play DOOM 3D.

    Funney. It doesn't seem like that long ago
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    I remember stu, talked to him on the phone several times, he lives in Utah. Zakar I remember as well, he said to get a voodoo3, so I did and it was darn good back then. Everyone you mentioned I remember, there were others but I can't think of their names.


    The United Nations is a oxymoron, they want to impose their beleifs and rules on our nation. They are a group that has a gun with a twisted barrell outside of their building. I say get rid of the UN, we DONT NEED THEM.



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    The United Nations is a oxymoron, they want to impose their beleifs and rules on our nation. They are a group that has a gun with a twisted barrell outside of their building. I say get rid of the UN, we DONT NEED THEM.
    I think that the UN acccurately depicts the rest of the world's belief that WE are trying to impose our ideals and beliefs on them.

    And it's true. Or can you, as an American, understand why things like freedom of speach are so vocally opposed by so many. Why do the populations of so many countries feel that elections (democracy) are wrong?

    I think that there SHOULD be a UN, and a stronger UN, one that fights. If there is not one, then tensions build as pax americana progresses, and sooner or later things flare up like they did 90 years ago. There is enough hate and inequality and aggression in the world right now for World War Four (never mind Three), and most of that tension is not able to be released in small wars and genocides simply because the US (and the UK, and other allies) are trying to impose Peace.

    I think we need a strong UN, to act as a referee... to keep the wars (that are inevitable) clean... non-biological, and non-nuclear (or at least not cobalt case nuclear). The US (and the UN as is exists now) tries to be an agent of comprimise. Unfortunately, comprimise is not always possible. Comprimise, for example, with the Empire of Japan in WWII didn't prove possible. The only way to get them to listen was to steam the USS Missouri into Tokyo harbor and eclipse the rising sun with squadrons of allied aircraft.

    Islamic Jihad is another heroic group. Totally unreasonable. Driven by a strange perception of manifest destiny... and let's face it, you can't beat determined people with words. In the end, it possible to wade through words like so much hot air.

    No, what the UN needs to be is a sounding board, where grievances can be talked through, where lines can be drawn, and where, when all else fails, war can be declared and fought within reasonable bounds, and may the best ideology endure.
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