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  • Sapphire ATi Radeon 9800; 128MB; 128-bit

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  1. #1
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    Need help deciding on card

    OK....so im wanting to buy a video card in the 100-150$ range, and i came across these two, each for about 140$....i have read numerous reviews on each and they both seem pretty good... one is by nvidia and the other ati... any suggestion? preferences of company? found it cheaper elsewhere? etc? anyway, here are the links to each:




    the nVidia 5900se:
    http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...133-101&depa=1

    if link doesnt work, its:

    PNY nVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 SE Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-Bit, TV-Out/DVI, 8X AGP Model "FX5900XT" -OEM
    @ Newegg.com

    AND:
    the ATi card:
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...102-369&depa=1

    if link doesnt work, its:

    Sapphire Radeon "9800 Atlantis" Video Card, 128MB DDR 128bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model 100584 1024-1C47, OEM

    also @ Newegg.com

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    oh ya and also... any suggestions on a card in that price range thats not one of those two would also be acceptable---thanx

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    The Geforce 5900XT is likely better. The Radeon 9800SE has a crippled 128 bit memory bus instead of the full 256 bit. I try to avoid anything from ATI that says LE. The GeForce 5900XT is just a slower clocked but full function version of the regular 5900 and 5900Ultra. They overclcok really good too. That is a very good price. They have dropped about $30 in the last few months.
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    well its not an Xt..at least i dont think so...the site says SE but i dont know much about all these XT, SE, Ultra, Pro, FX....etc....

    are they the same?

    ps...whats the diference between 256-bit and 128 bit??
    i have researched it i think its the instruction length that the card can process, but i have no idea what i just said...

    you have to be patient with me im kinda dumb...

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    id go for the Nvidia going by what Todd said, if you could extend to a 9800PRO though that would be worth it.
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    i see 3 ppl so far have opted for the 9800, but the 3d mark benchmarks at Toms Hardware say the 5900 is better...but they only say for 5900, not 5900SE... is SE "severely enadequate" or "super extreme"??

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    SE is for the Radeon. Their SE moddels have half the memory bandwidth. That means that two cards could have the same memory speeds, but if one has a 128 bit memory bus and the other has a 256 bit memory bus, the 256 would actually be able to access data off the memory 2x faster. Think of having a 1 lane road or a 2 lane road. Which can more more cars if the speed limits are the same.

    Like I said, nVidia does not cripple their cards that way. Their XT models are their budget models, but the drop in performance is not as bad because they just lower the speed of the core and memory, but do not cut the memory bus in half. The Radeon 9800Pro would beat a 5900, but the 5900XT is only about 10% slower than the 5900 (do to the lower clock speeds), but the 9800SE is about 30-40% slower (do to its crippled memory bus). The cards go from being in ATI's favour to nVidia's quickly at that price range.
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    Id also say the 5900 although the reputation of the fx isnt to great the card itself isnt that bad at all
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    todd the 5900"xt" from pny is labeled 5900"se" i had 3 of them...but it is an xt... personaly i would go the 5900se from those 2 choices..
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    And it is basically going to be the best card in that price range. I can think of no better one without going up into $200+ or down into the $100- range.
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    gotto tomshardware they did a big right up on about 30 vcards... the 5900xt,se. if memory serves me right slams the 9800se 128bit... the pole is not looking good as far as the right answer in this case....
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