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    x700p or 6600gt?

    Havent seen one of these threads yet.

    Like me, most of us will be buying one of these cards as the $400 cards are too expensive to justify the power.

    So, ive been hearing theyre close in terms of overall performance.

    Any reason to get one over the other? Does ATI still have an image quality advantage?

    Im ok with agp or pcie comparisons, although im sure my purchase will be pcie.

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    Its a coin toss. Both are very good cards for the money. The GT is the only one avaluable in AGP too, but for a price premium. If you play Doom3, then the GT will be the card for you. An article from Tom's Hardware says a lot of the nVidia based DVI image quality is not the best for high resolutions and colors with some even failing to pass qulification tests (that the industry does not enforce or require, but just sets as kind of a guideline for internal testing...):

    http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gra...129/index.html

    Buy for 1280x1024 or lower you should be fine reguardless or if you do not use an LCD monitor. But really it is personnal taste. I went for the Radeon x700Pro 256MB for about $200 because it was avaluable at the time and in my price range. I'd tell you how it performs, but my new system is still lacking a motherboard (nForce4 likely if they ever come out ). Even Doom3 will play good, but about 15% or so slower than the GT, but even my old Radeon 9700Pro run great at 1024x768 High Quality, so it is not a big deal. The extra 128MB of DDR might give the Radeon x700Pro and advantage over the GT in some games. The x700 is faster in games like UT 2004, BF1942, and HL2, but really the frame rates are pretty high on both cards in these games.

    The GeForce 6600GT does support SLI, but the first ASUS boards are avaluable for pre-order today, but at a supposad retail price of $350 with the cheapest I could find at $290 (ETA 12/10/04). You also have to use the same brand, speed, BIOS, and board revision and ensure SLI will run stable or at all. Not all are rated for SLI. Some of the first cards to hit the market did not fair too well when the SLI motherboards were finally avaluable for testing. Things seem to be fine now, but it might be a while before an SLI board is cheap enough to use on a 6600GT. Think you could get a $150 motherboard and a 6800GT for the same price as an SLI board and one 6600GT. You would need to spend $200 extra getting that second 6600GT just to keep up. SLI is really a workstation gadget or for someone with a lot of money and they are using it for 2 6800GTs or Ultras. SLI is not for the "best bang for the buck" kind of thing... it is for the "best of the best" kind of thing at a big price premium... currently
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    yeah i wasnt worried about sli, if i ever do it , it will be long after the bugs get worked out.


    I think im probably going to stick with ati, just because of the image quality, and alo for me ati has built a better product than nvidia reguarding video cards at least.

    Thanks for the input, it would be nice to tack some real benches to this thread.

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    There are lots of reveiws, but not too many P4 users with PCI-e around here. As the Athlon64 PCI-e hit the market you will see more... like me. Not too many current Intel fans that upgraded in the last year will likely see much point in upgrading and staying with the P4. It is the ones that still use AthlonXP or older P4 systems that are likely looking closely at Athlon64/PCI-e systems for their next upgrade. There are a lot of AthlonXP users around here.

    ATI's x800XL is supposed to retail for $350 and have much better supplies. If the supplies are better, then you might see ones like Sapphire for around $320. This is $50 cheaper than the x800Pro and x850Pro and runs at 400/1000 compared to x800Pro at 475/900 (which will be phased out) and the x850Pro at 520/1080. The big thing is the XL has 16 pipelines and the other two only have 12. It matches the x850Pro and beats the x800 pretty easy... and costs less. It also uses a 110nm proccess and runs cool with a single slot cooler. It also should be able to overclock to perform close to the x850 XT speeds, which is $150 more.
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    Oh yah and the next x800 (plain non-pro) runs at 400/700 with 128MB and 12 pipelines and will be $250. This card beats the 6600GT, which is the closest competitor from nVidia, by quite a bit. Heck it even beats it in Doom3.

    The x700 I just got does not look like as good a deal as I thought back when I got it. At this rate these new cards will hit befor a motherboard I can use.
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    damn, crappy man. i doubt the x700 will be underpowered anytime soon though

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    I get around 7900 in 3dmark2k3 with my x700Pro ati retail card installed on an Asus p5ad2-Premium and a P4 550. The video card is not overclocked.
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    Yup, that easily beats my Radeon 9700Pro that my x700 replaces. I'm saying it is a great gard, but they are crouding in a lot of other great cards in similar price brackets. It is also the fact that better cards are already coming out as I wait for my motherboard to finally hit the market. I think at this point it should be illegal to launch a product before it ships. It just really pisses me off.

    Lets just hope the nForce4 Ultra boards do not carry anything near the $300-350 retail price tag the SLI boards have right now.
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    Lets just hope the nForce4 Ultra boards do not carry anything near the $300-350 retail price tag the SLI boards have right now.
    I read somewhere, probably the Enquirer, that nforce4 motherboards would sell at around 200,00$


    As for the paper launches, it seems like it's becoming a trend now.
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    Eventually it will come down into that price range, but not right now!!! That price makes it worthless unless you are putting in GeForce6800GTs or better.
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