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    Which video card to get?

    First off im not looking into ATI as I did have a ATI card and did not like it. It was fast, but I had problems, etc. I am however looking at 6800 based cards, and would like some help on choosing.


    I know MSI, ASUS and others make 6800 based cards. But which card should I get? I am not after the Ultra, but I did see prices on the Asus GT cards, and they seem very decent. Performance is right up there either ahead of the ATI's or is slightly behind, but its 50/50. So which one should I get? My seyup will be as follows.


    Athlon64 FX 55 or the 4000+
    1GB DDR400 Ram OCZ brand
    MSI nforce3 based board
    Turtle beach Soundcard


    The rest is not of importance, but thats what will be the base of it. Now if you can convince me otherwise that ATI has changed since its 9700 cards, and they do not have the game issues like they used to, I might consider otherwise. Also have they changed their support? Is it still pay for after 30 days? I know it was back in 02, but is it still now?


    Thanks!


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    Was looking at brand names and this is what I came up with for the GT..


    Gainward
    Gigabyte
    MSI (cant find any of these in stock)
    BFG?

    Also I noticed the GT is PCI express only? What is equiv of this in AGP format? And are there any Socket 939 boards coming before xmas that will have PCI express?


    Thanks.


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    well, the GT is mainly AGP and is availble in PCI-E also.

    im not sure when the pci-e Socket 939 boards will come out, but i can say that out of that pot of cards, i'd go w/BFG
    why BFG? because they practically guarentee that their card will reach ultra speeds!

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    The ASUS V9999GT is not a standard 6800GT. It has only 128MB running at 700Mhz instead of 256MB at 1000Mhz. It is a good card for the money though and should still perform pretty good:

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...121-177&depa=1


    It looks like nVidia's supply is getting a bit tight again. Out of the 14 6800GTs they have listed (including the ASUS one) one a PNY one is in stock here:

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...133-116&depa=1

    If you want something cheaper, you might try this cut down 6800LE for $257. It runs at 325/700 and only has 8 pipelines, but if you are lucky you can unlock the other pipelines and overclock it up a bit:

    http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...140-044&depa=1

    Of course this seems to be the same as the regular 6800 as both have the same clock/memory speed and memory bus. I'm not sure about the pixel pipelines though:

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...roperty&DEPA=1

    A quick check shows only 3 out of 19 in stock at NewEgg for the x800Pro for ATI. The x800XT is 3 out of 16, but nVidia's 6800Ultra was 1 out of 8. Man both these companies are going to kill their holliday sales.
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    Which company sells the GT that runs at the speeds its "supposed" to? I saw some specs and the difference is 50mhz slower for core and 100mhz for memory. Who sells them at 350/1000? I think thats the speed the GT is. I know Gigabytes does, but how about BFG and the like?


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    I checked on NewEgg and all the cards they had used the standard 350/100 except the ASUS one that is 350/700 and the BFG OC version that is 370/1000. That is one reason I like NewEgg... they have good pictures, accurate specs, and links to the manufacturer. Of course only one is currently in stock, so you might have trouble getting the brand you want as supply is still pretty poor for most of the newer cards.

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...roperty&DEPA=1

    If I had to choose and it was in stock, I'd get the Giga-Byte one for $399. The cooling looks pretty good and the price is OK:

    http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...125-151&DEPA=1





    The Gainward one is about the only good brand named one listed and has an overclocked setting and looks pretty cool, but reveiws say the fans are a bit louder, but not too bad:

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...128-195&depa=1

    Of course neither of these are in stock or have an ETA, so it might be a bit.
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    I saw the review of the gigabyte and it seemed decent, the sight managed to oc to 420/1200 or something like that.. Performance was decent at stock, and as mentioned the price aint to bad. The BFG is in stock at two different stores on dealtime's website, both seem to have fair reviews.. It seems the two choices are the BFG and Gigabyte, and pending the gainward is in stock, that one.


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    New egg has a Chaintech nVIDIA GeForce 6600GT for $199

    Chip/Clock Speed nVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT / 500MHz
    Memory Configuration 1000MHz 128MB 128-bit DDR3

    It is PCI-e though.

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    I'm not sure he wants to upgrade the motherboard too right now. I think he is looking for AGP only.
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    I saw on TechBargains that Buy.com has the AGP model for $220 (pre-order though). I can't find any info about when it's going to be available though.

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    I heard it was not supposed to be launched for another week or two and nVidia has had some horrible lead times recently (as well as ATI). I'm pretty pissed off about their nForce4 boards. They were launched about 3 weeks ago and not a single place has even an ETA for them. I had better be able to order one within a week or I likely can not get the parts before the Thanksgiving holliday.
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    I will put in a good word for the BFG 6800 GT OC. Beautiful piece of workmanship. It is the heaviest video card that I have ever owned.

    Current Main Rig:
    AMD FX55 @ 2.9 GHz
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    ATI X1900XT O/C to XTX speeds

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    AMD Athlon XP 2500+ Barton @ 2387 MHz. (217*11)
    512MB DDR RAM @ 436 MHz. (PC 3700)
    Abit AN7 motherboard
    BFG GeForce 6800GT OC!

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    Well, the review is up at PC Perspective (Old Athlon Motherboards forum) for the AGP 6600GT.

    New Egg has one for $245 US
    Last edited by Leoslocks; November 17th, 2004 at 11:04 AM.

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    Monarch Computer has one for $223

    I do not know if it has the same software bundle. Being a Retail Box, it should. New Egg has me spoiled with the pictures they put up.

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    Personally I have a MSI 6800 GT. Nice card, not much to say it that I didn't already write in other threads.

    Edit: and yes, I can guarantee that it runs at the official 6800 GT speeds. Also overclocks to 6800 Ultra speeds with no problems, and still stays under 60 C temperatures. If you're into overclocking anyway.

    Two words of warning, though:

    1. NVidia 6800 cards are loud. Yes, the MSI is already using a better cooler than NVidia's reference, but was still _way_ too loud for my taste.

    I changed it with an Arctic VGA Silencer 5, and it's much better, but still a little louder than I'd like.

    To give you a rough idea, the loudest VGA Silencer for ATIs tops at 0.6 Sone, the one for 6800 is 0.9 sone. NVidia cards simply dissipate as much heat as a Prescott.

    2. At least the MSI model doesn't support 3D glasses.(And it's the official answer from MSI Germany too.)

    That was a bit of a kick in the crotch for me, since one of the reason I went back to NVidia was for the 3D glasses.

    Kinda makes me wonder why the heck did they pack the 3D glasses drivers on the CD, if they made the card not to support them. I mean... is that stupid, or is that stupid?
    Last edited by Moraelin v2.0; November 17th, 2004 at 11:43 AM.

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