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  1. #1
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    Cooling Issues in multiple areas

    Hi everyone, my first post, I have some problems cooling my entire system.

    My setup is listed below, which, in my opinion, is running way hotter than it should be.

    With a normal load of applications (Internet browser, zonealarm, cpu monitoring prog), my barton 2600+ is running at 56 Celsius. My case temperature is at 45 Celsius, which concerns me more. Ambient Temperature, i Would say is 23-24 C.

    Im working on a solution, and i need some help. I currently have my Zalman FB123 92 mm Fan as exhaust in the upper back of my case, while I have a single 80mm generic fan at the front bottom of my case (I have another 80mm in hand but not installed yet) as intake. The air being blow out at the back of the exhaust fan seems rather cool, i can't guess what the temperature of it is. Any suggestions?

    As for my CPU, i have a Vantec Aeroflow on there, and i have to admit, that i put a little too much thermal paste on the cpu, if i fixed that up, how much would that help by?

    Thanks for your time
    hope to be hearing from everyone soon

    JK
    Powmax 757B Internet Explorer Mod Case
    UniPro Thame Star 400 W ATX Power Supply
    AMD Athlon XP Barton 2600+ (OC @ 2002 Mhz)
    Vantec Aeroflow HS feat. YS Tech TMD Fan
    Samsung 512 MB PC2700 DDR RAM
    Maxtor Diamondmax Plus9 160 GB ATA133 HDD
    Western Digital Caviar 80 GB HDD
    MSI KT6V-L/S/R Motherboard
    Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM Drive
    LG 52x24x52 CD-RW Drive
    Zalman FB123 92mm Case Fan (Exhaust)
    MSI GeForce FX5200TD 128 MB DDR Video Card
    ViewSonic E70f 17" Flat Screen CRT Monitor
    LeadTek WinFast 2000XP Deluxe TV Tuner Card
    Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live 5.1 Sound Card
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    Welcome to the forum, Jay-Kid.

    Try taking the side off of your case and letting air blow in. Then see what your CPU temps go to. A case temp of 45C is pretty high.

    Too much thermal grease can be a problem. So can not covering the core completely.

    Post back on what the temps are, especially on the CPU, after you take the side off.

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    ok, i took the side panel off my case, and the CPU temperature was 47 C and the case at 34 C on normal load, guess my case has terrible ventilation.

    on a heavier load, the Case Temp shoots up to 40+ even with the side panel open, perhaps i need a better fan intake?

    thanks
    Powmax 757B Internet Explorer Mod Case
    UniPro Thame Star 400 W ATX Power Supply
    AMD Athlon XP Barton 2600+ (OC @ 2002 Mhz)
    Vantec Aeroflow HS feat. YS Tech TMD Fan
    Samsung 512 MB PC2700 DDR RAM
    Maxtor Diamondmax Plus9 160 GB ATA133 HDD
    Western Digital Caviar 80 GB HDD
    MSI KT6V-L/S/R Motherboard
    Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM Drive
    LG 52x24x52 CD-RW Drive
    Zalman FB123 92mm Case Fan (Exhaust)
    MSI GeForce FX5200TD 128 MB DDR Video Card
    ViewSonic E70f 17" Flat Screen CRT Monitor
    LeadTek WinFast 2000XP Deluxe TV Tuner Card
    Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live 5.1 Sound Card
    SmartLink 10/100 MB LAN Card
    Altec Lansing AVS300 Speakers and Subwoofer Set
    Logitech Internet Navigator Keyboard + Logitech Click! Optical Mouse

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    Re: Cooling Issues in multiple areas

    Originally posted by Jay-Kid
    As for my CPU, and i have to admit, that i put a little too much thermal paste on the cpu, if i fixed that up, how much would that help by?
    There was a long thread at SPCR about how much paste is too much. The answer is that more than a very thin layer can really raise temps. The instructions on Arctic Silver's website are an excellent guide for applying thermal compound.

    And I'm highly suspicious of anything with the name "Vantec" on it.

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    You got a link to the case, so we can cheak it out? Restrictive fan grills are a big problem on most cases. Removing restricive fan grills and adding wire grills can quadruple your airflow sometimes. Adding a blohole in the side for intake or the top for exhaust can help too. I'd clean up the grease too as this can drop your temps another 1-2'C.

    Chances are that is not your case temp, but the temp of the Northbridge and if it is passivley cooled, this can read quite a bit higher than the actualy case temps.
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    Originally posted by Todd a
    You got a link to the case, so we can cheak it out? ...
    this is what my grill(s) looks like. theres a fan on the top one, and the bottom one is empty.probably should cut these out, right?



    here's a link to the case
    http://atxpowersupplies.com/atx-case-757B.htm

    Also, im using the MSI CoreCenter software, and the northbridge temp is listed as N/A while the system temperature the listing i'm reading off of.
    Last edited by Jay-Kid; September 23rd, 2004 at 11:04 PM.
    Powmax 757B Internet Explorer Mod Case
    UniPro Thame Star 400 W ATX Power Supply
    AMD Athlon XP Barton 2600+ (OC @ 2002 Mhz)
    Vantec Aeroflow HS feat. YS Tech TMD Fan
    Samsung 512 MB PC2700 DDR RAM
    Maxtor Diamondmax Plus9 160 GB ATA133 HDD
    Western Digital Caviar 80 GB HDD
    MSI KT6V-L/S/R Motherboard
    Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM Drive
    LG 52x24x52 CD-RW Drive
    Zalman FB123 92mm Case Fan (Exhaust)
    MSI GeForce FX5200TD 128 MB DDR Video Card
    ViewSonic E70f 17" Flat Screen CRT Monitor
    LeadTek WinFast 2000XP Deluxe TV Tuner Card
    Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live 5.1 Sound Card
    SmartLink 10/100 MB LAN Card
    Altec Lansing AVS300 Speakers and Subwoofer Set
    Logitech Internet Navigator Keyboard + Logitech Click! Optical Mouse

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    your case looks fine

    Your case looks fine. It's plenty big enough for heat dissipation. Plus it has two fan ports. Just make sure that your fans aren't both sucking in or out. make one fan suck in and the other blow out. This will keep fresh cool air moving through the case.

    I see the power supply mount location is up and out of the way of the cpu so this should help as well.

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    You may want to take a look at putting some thermal compound/grease for the northbridge heatsink.
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    ok, an update:

    I fixed the thermal paste on the cpu, added an extra intake fan, and put a little thermal grease on the nb heatsink

    with the cover on, the case temp is listed as 38 degrees on light load, and 42-43 on heavy load. The cpu is at 51-53 on moderate load, and on heavy load goes as high as 58.

    is this the best it's going to be? are there still somethings i can do to make it better?
    Powmax 757B Internet Explorer Mod Case
    UniPro Thame Star 400 W ATX Power Supply
    AMD Athlon XP Barton 2600+ (OC @ 2002 Mhz)
    Vantec Aeroflow HS feat. YS Tech TMD Fan
    Samsung 512 MB PC2700 DDR RAM
    Maxtor Diamondmax Plus9 160 GB ATA133 HDD
    Western Digital Caviar 80 GB HDD
    MSI KT6V-L/S/R Motherboard
    Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM Drive
    LG 52x24x52 CD-RW Drive
    Zalman FB123 92mm Case Fan (Exhaust)
    MSI GeForce FX5200TD 128 MB DDR Video Card
    ViewSonic E70f 17" Flat Screen CRT Monitor
    LeadTek WinFast 2000XP Deluxe TV Tuner Card
    Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live 5.1 Sound Card
    SmartLink 10/100 MB LAN Card
    Altec Lansing AVS300 Speakers and Subwoofer Set
    Logitech Internet Navigator Keyboard + Logitech Click! Optical Mouse

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    are there still somethings i can do to make it better?
    Powmax is a cheap case -- nothing wrong with that, but You need to do a little work on airlflow. Cut out the restrictive grilles, and in the front, where there is probably very little in the way of openings for air to get in, at least cut the small opening in the bottom of the front plastic bezel much larger. You can't get any fingers at the front fan anyway. Whether you use a fan there or not, cut out the grille in the metal. Raise the computer up enough so that the opening at the bottom of the bezel has room to breathe.

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