Thanks for the info... I didnt know the xp's got that hot when idle. My ol' duron 950 runs ~42 idle and thats with terrible ventilation.
After fiddling with it some more, it turns out its behavior was because of the ti4200 that was in there... during boot and in the bios a few random characters would appear in various places, sometimes over lines or text that was supposed to bethere, and then a few pixels here and there would be the wrong colors when it got into windows. Swapped it out for an old Voodoo3 and it worked fine. Go figure.
It's still running hotter than it ought to be. I would check out two possibilities:
Is the conductive paste too thick? This can increase temps. Check the Arctic Silver website for good instructions on applying pastes.
Is there enough airflow through the case? Too many fans can create turbulence. Restrictive grilles can kneecap fans and many cases do not have sufficient openings at the front to feed the exhausts in the back. The cpu hsf ends up recycling hot air.
I had already messed with the paste a couple times and got it down to about 43C idle... theres a fan mounted on the side of the case that also seems to help the hsf. I wasnt using anything as good as arctic silver, but my radioshack paste was a helluvalot better than the uneven goo-pad that the bozo that put it together had left on there.
I'm a lil rusty with socket a's so it took me a couple tries with the paste but it seems to be working now cept for the vid. Thanks for your help guys!
My GainWard GeForce4 Ti4200 w/64MB would go all funny on the screan during some games (Call of Duty mostly). The screan would be paterns of pink, white, and light blue blocks all over the screan. When I reboot, they are differant but still there in the post screan. They only go away if I power down completely. Got sick of it and had to get a new card this week. I turned out get a Radeon 9600 np. Not really as fast, but close enough for my #2 LAN Party machine.
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That sounds a lil like the prob with this one, only the junk doesnt go away after a reboot... its just moves in the bios-it stays put in windows; go figure. The vid card is cheap anyway- i couldnt find the name of the company stamped anywhere on it! It seems like "inexpensive" hardware has become "cheap" hardware these last couple years and companies dont even want to identify parts as their own
Originally posted by Martin_89 my palomino 1600+ was the same, but amd say they are ok untill 70C, make sure the vcore is at default.
You can do better than default if your board has voltage control. If you're not overclocking the cpu, if your board gives you manual control of Vcore in the bios, and if that control allows you to undervolt (this is least common) you can often reduce the Vcore and reduce the heat.
I have an Athlon TBird 1.1G, default voltage 1.75V, running at 1.60V, thanks to an AOpen motherboard that lets me undervolt.
The process is the same as overclocking -- you try a setting, see if it posts, and run a cpu intensive program like Prime 95 or CpuBurn for a period of time to find if it's stable at that setting.
Undervolting ability is hard to find. For example, MSI's K7N2 Delta has 0.025V control, but the minimum voltage is 1.55V. A lot of budget boards have only +5%, +10%, etc. options.
You can find a list of undervoltable boards in a sticky in one of the forums at Silent PC Review.
I think some boards give you a range that is set by the default voltage of the cpu, meaning that the board is capable of a larger range of voltages than you will be able to access once it's detected the cpu's default.
In your case, it could be that the hardware on the board doesn't support the entire range shown in the bios.