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    Dying Monitor

    I like 1024x768. It's kinda big on a 19", but I like it. When I run that on my monitor now, I get shadowing, and the display isn't sharp anymore. I can back it down to 800x600 or up it to 1152x864 though, and it's clear again. Running at 1152 right now. Should I be in the market for a new one, and what do you recommend?

    If I have to buy it'll be 19" CRT with a good dotpitch.
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    I can't solve your problem with the resolution issue on your current monitor, but I can make a suggestion for your future monitor purchase if you require one.

    I have a ViewSonic G90fb, the 19" Graphics Version Flat Screen with black bezel. It is a wonderful monitor, and perhaps the cheapest high quality one out there. I did research for about two weeks before deciding on it, and I came to the conclusion that it is the best buy.

    The tube is shadow mask and it is capable of 1600x1200 rez at something like an incredible 76hz, flicker free and crystal clear. It displays text quite well at that resolution as well as bright, accurate color (fully adjustable btw) for great graphics during DVD viewing and gaming. Check it out at ViewSonic's website.

    Only two complaints: The bezel is not pitch black in color, but more like midnight gray, and of course that doesn't matter to you if you plan to get beige. I don't notice it anymore now. Also, the screen is ever so slightly curved; it is almost completely flat. This isn't noticeable really either, but me being a student with limited money, I was quite tedious upon inspection. You can't find a perfectly flat shadow mask monitor these days anyway, though.

    If you do decide on this monitor, or any monitor as a matter of fact, buy it at www.pagecomputers.com. I paid only $240 (shipping included!) for this monitor, which retails at stores for about $290, and at other online distributors for about $250 plus shipping. Great deal!

    Good luck -- Sean
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    I just picked up a iiyama 454 Pro and it is awesome! This thing looks great, its bright with great color. I got it at newegg for $375 shipped. This baby will do 1920x1440 at 77 Hz

    http://www.iiyama.com/web2002/top.htm

    Toms Hardware did a review of 12 different 19" monitors and this one was very high rated.

    http://www4.tomshardware.com/display...319/index.html

    I had purchased a Hitachi CM721F for $285 and was very dissapointed with it so I sold that in favor of the iiyama.

    I learned my lesson with the first 19" monitor I bought, a 19" NEC MultiSync 95. It only had a 1 year warranty and went bad in just 6 months. They replaced it of course, but I had to pay $40 shipping, the replacement is a refurb and is on its way out again. So the best advice I could give would be look for 3 year warranty or better.
    Last edited by KilrB; February 20th, 2003 at 06:59 PM.

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    I'll vote for the Iiyama VM Pro 454 as well, best damned 19" monitor you could ever buy. Who cares if your old one is knackered or not, just buy it because it is gorgeous! 1024x768 is a bit of a waste of it's capabilities, but it will still look better than on any other monitor, both in image quality and desktop appearance, it is a pretty monitor.

    Or, just run with 1152x768, it's the absolute minimum you should be using on a 19" until you are retired in Florida.

    Bennyboy.

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    I'm not paying $375 for a monitor. $300 top not inclucing shipping. It's just against my religion.
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    $300 used to be all I would pay as well, I had a hard time spending any more. The Hitachi I bought was right in that price range and the color and look of 3D games was great, but the 2D was terrible. It used a Perfectly Flat Invar Shadow Mask tube. The NEC I have use a regular Shadow mask with a curved tube. 2D on the NEC is very good, but color seemed washed out and 3D isnt the greatest. Now this iiyama use a Mitsubishi DiamondTron Aperture Grill Tube and is VERY Bright with great color and very very good 2D performance. I love gaming and all, but 85% of what I do is in 2D so that was the real reason I decided to sell the Hitachi and spend the extra $80 for the iiyama. I do some CAD at home as well and wanted good monitor for that.

    The link to Tomhardware has some pretty good reviews of several monitors. For a good price/performance ratio i'd probably have to agree with SaulTurnedPaul and take that road to damascus and pick a Viewsonic.
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    Originally posted by Bennyboy


    (KilrB, I openly admit to coveting your monitor.)
    I hear you there Bennyboy. I love this monitor, but I have to tell ya, I was coveting a 21" Sony G520 that I my instructor was using for CAD when I was taking some classes in Omaha awhile back. Iiyama makes a real nice looking 21" as well, but either way there is no way I could swing $650

    After seeing that monitor in action though really got my hooked on high quality Aperture Grill monitors. When I say that the color is bright it is somewhat of an understatement, brilliant is a better description
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    Have you tried changing the refresh rate. Make sure the latest drivers are installed for your monitor. It might not be dead yet if teh other resolutions are working fine.
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    Well a little more tinkering, and certain refresh rates at all resolutions are weird.
    The colors wash out, and it's not as sharp as it should be, and I get ghost images that continue all the way off the right edge of the screen. I've seen them get this way at work before, and it just gets worse. Time to start shopping.
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    http://www.emscomputing.com/producti...p?guidSession={64095311-5EAE-484F-8004-BA4F90F08FDA}&idproduct=12578321

    What do you guys think of this?

    I have a 15" samsung that came with a mac years ago. It's one of the first flat crt models, and it still looks great. If they still make them look like that then it should be OK.
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    Red face feelin kind of silly...

    I have at work cracked the cases tons of time on Sony Monitors, and a small adjustment of the focus potentiometer gave a clear vibrant picture again. Well why wouldn't I do this at home too? Cause, I didn't think of it. LOL

    Anywho I cracked it, turned the pot about one degree clockwise, and like new again!!
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    Originally posted by NewBlackDak
    http://www.emscomputing.com/producti...p?guidSession={64095311-5EAE-484F-8004-BA4F90F08FDA}&idproduct=12578321

    What do you guys think of this? ...

    Link does not go to product page.
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    Cheers.

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    Originally posted by NewBlackDak
    I'm not paying $375 for a monitor. $300 top not inclucing shipping. It's just against my religion.
    I was going to suggest you change your religion, take a look at one and you may see the light (it is brighter than most), KilrB has seen it, and I'd be disappointed if SaulturnedPaul hadn't . A decent monitor is an investment, it will be with you a long time as I still don't see LCDs being as flexible for another 3-4 years, when the pixels are so damned tiny you can run ANY resolution on them. An extra $75 over 3 years is nothing, you will appreciate it every single time you sit down in front of your PC, but I appreciate it is a difficult decision to justify now.

    Especially when you just fixed your current monitor, well done! You are very fortunate to even have a focus pot' to play with though.

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    hehe

    I know fully well what a beautiful monitor looks like at work the graphic artists and page designers have some of the best I've ever seen. A couple Iiyama's, a couple trinitrons, a couple Apple Cinema displays, and some 21" Trinitrons. Has anyone ever seen a Sun 24" professional workstation monitor? We have those too. Personally, I spend most of my time using vi, and CLI. I gusee an LCD would be best for me, but I'm a price/performance person.

    We make trade-offs I guess, and I want a new billet throttle-body for the Ram. To myself that's more worthy of $375 than a monitor.
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    Quite interesting about the vm 454, i was going to buy one then i read this review http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/index.cfm...w&product=1385 compared with this one http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/index.cfm...w&product=1360 ?? theres a fair differnce in price and they seem to know what their talking about any advice ? I havent bought one yet but would have gone for the 93sb pro till i read this topic ?

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