VisionTek?

[kevin2000]

I am looking to buy a VisionTek Xtasy GeForce4 Ti 4200 and I was wondering if anyone was still buying Visiontek cards? I know they are in financial trouble, so I am assuming the cards will not really have a warranty. Would I be better off buying an an ATI based card? I found a good deal the Visiontek card I want and I am not sure what ATI card compares with the Geforce Ti 4200.

[Marvt74]

visiontek have moved over to ati i believe
though i read they are still sticking to the old lifetime warrenties they supplied with gf4 (i think)
though why not just get another manufacturer of the ti4200 like msi?

[WhiteandGray]

kevin2000: The closest ATI to the G4 4200 is probably the ATI 9500np(nonpro). The 9500Pro beats the 4200 and beats the 4400 most of the time and can't quite keep up with the 4600. The ATI 9700 series beats the G4 cards. Personally, no matter what the price(except free), I think I would stay away from VisionTek when there are other manufacturers out there. Note this link concerning Gainward 4200 cards-- since this article it appears this problem MIGHT also be with some other 4200 boards they make......

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/...012803X,00.asp

Nvidia and ATI are releasing new chips shortly, so prices should drop on current stuff.

[kevin2000]

WhiteandGray-Thanks for the link. I have always bought Visiontek cards, I still have 3 of them. I don't know much about ATI. I hate to drop $300 plus on a card, I rather spend more on the MB+CPU. I found a Visiontek Geforce 4 Ti4200 with 64mb for $100. I'll take a look at the ATI 9500. Thanks.

[Todd a]

The non pro is about the same speed as the Radeon 9000. This lets it beat the GeForce4 MX cards pretty easy, but that's about it. The Radeon 9500Pro is much faster (and only slightly more expensive) and floats around between the GeForce4 Ti 4200 and 4600. Overall a good card. If you want to shell out the big bucks the Radeon 9700 Pro is a good card. If you are looking for a good deal the radeon 9500Pro is very good (and a DX9 card like the 9700).

Visiontek pretty much folded and split up. The remains and the branding go baught up by another company (made up of a lot of ex Visiontek employees). They are not too happy with nVidia (they owed a boatload to nVidia and nVidia would not help them out while restructuring), so you will likely not see any nVidia based cards at Visiontek for a very long time.

[kevin2000]

Thanks Todd a. Can anyone tell me where I can find some info on AGP speed 4x vs. 8x?

[Marvt74]

8x gives about 2-3% more performance over 4x
not really worth it if the difference in price is about $20

[mooP]

my 3dmark 2001se score is about 1000 higher using agp8x instead of 4x

[WhiteandGray]

kevin2000: One of several standard benches showing the HUGE difference between a 9000 series ATI and a 9500series card. Also note the GF scores.

http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/...charts-05.html

[kevin2000]

Awesome link WhiteandGray. That is what I am looking for. Thank you.