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    Radeon 9700 reviews

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    http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1683
    http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/...819/index.html
    http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzQw
    http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...,475966,00.asp
    http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardware/r300/default.asp

    Looks like it's lived up to expectations and there don't seem to be any major driver issues. Amazingly, in some FSAA benchmarks it's about 5 times faster than the Ti4600.

    Nice.

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    When's the expected release date?

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    Sure its blazing, but would NV30 be faster than R300
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    Originally posted by AMDs-PoOp
    Sure its blazing, but would NV30 be faster than R300
    Yes, definitely. It also has a few more features (confirmed - although most will be redundant in the short term). It has the huge advantage of being based around a 0.13u fabrication process; but then again, the same technology has contributed greatly to it being set back.

    As of the 15th, NV30 hadn't taped out, meaning at least 3 months until we see it on shelves. It could well be January by the time it is widely available. I think John Carmack had his finger 100% on the pulse when he said that nVidia were about half a product cycle behind ATi around the time of the E3 expo. No doubt it will be an awesome card, but by the time it debuts I'm sure the shelf prices of 9700 will be <$300 and the 9500 even lower at around $200.

    It's a tricky decision to make; buy now or wait. Personally, the 9700 looks like the most future-proof card ever released, dare I say worth the retail price. I think there won't be much that NV30 can do that 9700 won't be able to do already; and by the time its extra speed is actually useful, we'll have R400/NV40 to chose from. One thing's for sure; all this competition is great.

    Really nice to see cards from Trident and SiS looking pretty hot in the low/mid sectors.

    MuFu.

    P.S. Re. the release date, I'm not sure. I think you can pre-order it already in a number of places but cards won't actually be available until late August/early September. There are a few dates floating around nVnews/Rage3D/HardOCP forums within that timeframe.
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    You miss out on one 3D Labs
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    Originally posted by AMDs-PoOp
    You miss out on one 3D Labs
    3DLabs aren't "looking pretty hot in the low/mid sectors".

    Edit - Actually... I'll take that back. Both the SiS and Trident cards are looking fairly promising, but they're not exactly mind-blowing just yet. ATi are still very much on top of things with the 9000.

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    Last edited by MuFu; August 20th, 2002 at 07:20 PM.

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    Cool

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    5X faster? Naa...didnt you "pee on my fire" for saying it was 150-250% faster with all the eye candy enabled?

    I dont believe you!

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    Originally posted by Dr. Data
    Mufu

    5X faster? Naa...didnt you "pee on my fire" for saying it was 150-250% faster with all the eye candy enabled?

    I dont believe you!

    Dude, that is because at the time you read the previews (mainly Anand) and just took their word when they said it was "200%" faster, when in fact they were mistaken - it was "just" 100% faster. They later corrected the wording. I was just pointing that out at the time; with all due respect, you got a bit carried away.

    Anyway... it's a moot point now that we've got a few new benchmark situations to consider and yes, it does kick a hell of a lot of ***. Great era for GPU development, this.

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    P.S. Plus, I get called an ATi fanboy so much around here that I have to drop the odd comment to keep things in check. Bwehehehe...
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    I might well buy a 9700Pro Mutha Funker, but I will surely wait until early next year. Firstly, I think my Ti4400 will suffice until then. Only UT2003 will tax it ...I won't be buying any other new games apart from that and Age of Mythology until that point. By then, hopefully NV30 will be out and about. If I do choose a 9700Pro it will probably be 50-100 cheaper by then and I will also be able to rate it against the NV30. Either way, these new cards rock. Well over 60fps in current games and UT2003 with eye candy on at 1024 * 768. You have to hand it to ATi. They've really imoproved their FSAA algortihm. This is what we have always been dreaming of.
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    I have to admit the 9700 looks pretty good

    I won't be getting one til after the new Nvidia card comes out to see which one is better.

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    Second that
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    Yeah... I'll probably be up for checking out the next nVidia ASIC too. NV30 should be very impressive and as much as I'd like a 9700 I can't afford it right now (I agree with C.Amazing - a Ti4400 is more than enough right now). Having said that... the 9700 Pro will be much cheaper than NV30 by the New Year and there will be the R400/NV35 on the horizon (R400 has been in development in the Toronto labs for coming up to a year now).

    http://www.lostcircuits.com/video/nvidia_nv30/

    NV30 - now it looks like it might be February until it is widely available.

    MuFu.

    P.S. There is a lot of **** flying around regarding NV30 tape-out/ETA. I am pretty inclined to agree with that article as they have their facts straight about reticle set fab, post tape-out verificaton, overall time-to-market estimations etc. Beyond3D is another good place to go for some very well informed opinions.
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    Agreed.

    I never buy top of the line, I will either wait for the 9500 or wait until NV30 and buy a price slashed 9700
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    Some early O/C results...



    http://212.43.236.46/ar/gen/1452-11.html

    Not that it needs anymore, but 351MHz out of 2.86ns memory is not very impressive at all. Where's my pencil...

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