Grover!

[wetling]

Does your Apex 2400FT have any 120mm fan holes?

[MuFu]

Mine? LOL.

MuFu.

[grover]

Does if you want! It's got room for 3 80mm fans- 2 above the PSU in the backside, and the standard front vent fan under the power switch. There are vent holes all over the back. I used my dremel to put 3 more 80mm fans in the case sides, which made a big difference (4 fans in the top cooling the radiator and 2 cooling the rest of the case, with natural exhause)

The only real drawback to this case is the sides are really tough to put on by yourself, but I've got it down to a science now- use two woodworking clamps to hold the top, and use my left hand to push the panel in and on while my right hand holds the case steady and I head-but the front to keep pressure on it. Easy! Before I had my watercooling, I'd just lay it sideways and it wasn't a big deal that way. With nothing fancy but a hinge-down mobo panel, it's definately a no-frills case, but for $65 w/300W PSU, I can live with a slight hassel during maintainance

[wetling]

Thanks. I'm trying to find a new case and your's might have fit the bill, that's why I ask.

I'm looking for a case with drive rails, a removeable mobo tray, enough room for five PCI cards, pump, two HDDs, a floppy drive that's not at the top, and at least one 120mm exhaust hole in the back (for my rad).

I'm looking at the GlobalWin YCC61F1, LiteOn FS020, and Chenbro NET right now.

Anyone have any further suggestions?

[Leoslocks]

I saw this Antec at Compusa that looked real nice.

I need to stay out of the stores before I start buying stuff I am not ready for.

Oopa! It does not have a removeable Mobo tray.

[wetling]

It also doesn't have any 120mm fan holes and that's the most important thing.

[dfgsd]

so make a few. mine now has 4

[wetling]

I'm not really into making holes in my case (or doing any case modding). It's bad enough that I have to take out one of the PCI card dividers on the back to make room for my pump cord

[grover]

Just in case you misunderstood my crack: my Apex case has no 120mm holes. It is woefully lacking of holes, but it's easy enough to cut some.



If you've got AutoCAD, here is how I set up my watercooling rig. If you don't have autoCAD, you can download the freeware viewer, VoloView Express I have two fans (one mounted on each side panel) making positive pressure in from of/under the radiator, and 2 fans pulling out the back. The big green thing in the pic is a plastic-coated cardboard drip tray with capacity to hold just about all the water in the system, should the rad start leaking! I've got the rad held in place by a 3 3/4 tall dowel-rod and furring strip jerry-rig Foam rubber/batting will insulate the sides and prevent air from slipping around the rad. I cut a small square hole in the side to fish the power cord through (I've got a 12V relay rigged from a molex to a 115v outlet so the pump turns on when I hit the power switch)

Also- the orange octogons to the side are my fan templates- very handy! Print to scale 1:1 and they'll match, exactly, an 80mm fan. Tape in place where you want the fan. Cut out the inner ring and spokes with a dremel, and score the outer ring to ~half the depth of the metal. Then, bend 'em back and hammer down! Perfect fan holes every time! Actually, those templates alone mike make it worth the bother to download VoloView I could whip some up quick for 120mm if anyone wants.

[wetling]

Actually, I did know what you meant, but thanks for the addtional detail.

I really hate the idea of case modding. I don't have the tools, inclination, or skill (probably ) to do even fairly easy tasks.

I am going to probably have to cut out on of the PCI card dividers on the back of my case to let the pump cord out and I'm dreding that. I'll probably have to use my jig saw, but I'm not sure the blade I have will work