If it's any comfort, when I run my 1800+ at anything above 152 FSB, it posts as a 2200+, does that count :-D? I dunno man, I want to see the switch to .13 , I think the Intel v AMD wars will become alot more interesting...
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I really just want to see AMD close the Mhz gap..... Tired of hearing Ol'man run his mouth bout his OCed celies.... (JK Ol man, Good fun is all) I want to see an AMD product back up (Mhz wise) with the !ntel chips.
Intel will make the switch to 533Mhz bus (133Mhz quad pumped) in 2Q. They will add a few speed grades to the mix (probably hitting about 2.26 and 2.4Ghz). They will follow up with a 2.53, 2.67, and 2.8 by the end of the year.
AMD will launch the .13 micron Thuroughbread cored AthlonXP. This will give them a bit of a jump in performance. They should launch at 2000+ and 2200+ in2Q and shift quickly to 2400+ and 2600+ by 3Q.
Then things get a bit iffy. If the Hammer is looking to be delayed then we should see a .13 micron with their new SOI (silicon on insolator) technology called Barton. This will likely hit 2800+ and 3000+ befor the end of the year and hopefully make use of a 333Mhz bus (166Mhz double pumped).
If the Hammer is on time and the Claw Hammer is launched befor the end of the year, the Barton core might never see the light of day. This is likely the case since it has faded from most road maps and the Hammer chip is sampling and supposadly shipping to partners for system building (motherboards, systems, drivers...). This thing will be a beast with the Athlon core, a better and larger L2 cache, stronger integer units, better prediction units, a deeper pipeline and most important a powerfull integrated memory controller and HyprTransport unit. It is supposed to support DDR333 and QDR (quad data rate). It will likely use a 166Mhz bus dual pumped. They might make a faster one (quad pumped would go well with the QDR). It is targetted at P4 rating of 3400 at launch, which will very likely be a 2.0-2.5Ghz range. this chip will target desktop with single and dual CPU systems and laptop markets. Then Q1-2 2003, they will follow with the Sledge Hammer version that will supporty 1-8 way and a larger L2 cache (1MB). This will be on their new .09 micron and start at 4400 (probably around 2.5-3.0Ghz).
Intel will have a 3Ghz version of the P4 out early next year and a .10 or .09 micron switch Q2-3 next year. This will quickly push the P3 to 4Ghz and possibly 5Ghz by the end of 2003 and 2004.
AMD should be able to keep performance in there favor from the minute the .13 micron AthlonXP comes out and it should grow with the Hammer. They also have much more powerfull line-up for the laptop market. Intel will not pass the 2Ghz amrk this year with lap tops and are onyl at 1.2Ghz right now. AMD has a model 1500+ right now and the TB core should move them up to 2200+ easy. The Hammer is supposed to be a perfect laptop CPU (low power and heat) and should launch in the laptop market in the 2600+ range or more.
To make a long story short. Most things should start hitting around CeBit about 5-6 weeks from now (Late March I think). Intel with a 2.4Ghz 533Mhz bus P4 and AMD with a 2000+ and 2200+ version of their Athlon. This should be a good overclocker like the currant P4 2.0A and 2.2A Northwood cores. On the other hand the P4 at 2.4Ghz will be a harder overclock with the higher bus speed and next speed grades higher.
Plus AMD is getting extra perfromance boosts from new chipsets and Intel is not. The i850/RDRAM is still their best hope for performance and 1064Mhz Rambus will likely be pretty expensive.
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Looks like the Barton core is still alive and will run through a good chunk of next year too befor the ClawHammer completely displaces it. They show a 2800+ as I said and next year a >2800+. This means at least a 3000+ and possibly a 3200+ or more.
AMD has said they plan on keeping the socket and bus speeds constant for upgradability for the remander of the Athlons life. I hope they stick with this and motherboard manufacturers can update the BIOS to support the ThuroughBread and Barton core. I would probably skip the TB, but the Barton core would be a nice upgrade for my Epox 8KHA+ system.
The Hammer will hit 4000+ 1H 2003 and 4400+ in 2H 2003. They also show a .065 micron SOI for 2005, which is a bit eccelerated from currant 1.5 year steps. They also show a .13 micron Duron (Appaloosa core) at 2000+ bu the end of the year. Man a 1.67Ghz budget CPU this year. I wonder how well the Duron will take on the P4 cored Celeron and how much Intel will cripple it to keep it from competing against the NorthWood P4s.
The big thing that I see is AMD has been getting some killer motherboards and their chips are hitting the laptop market pretty hard. I still have problems with a P4 in a laptop.
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