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    Yay! I upgraded by "downgrading"!!! Poor dad don't know it ;)

    Hey some of you know how I always complained about my P.O.S. Diamond Viper Z2 Savage2000 card. I thought 64mb would be good for use, but it wasn't. That card is a lot newer than the Diamond Viper V770 TNT2 card that I ripped out of my dad's system. The S3 card was only clocked at 125/143. Clocking over 150/155 would give me artifacts...even with the Blorb on it.

    This TNT2 card is default clocked at 125/150 and I have clocked it at 166/190 on the other machine. This card also has run on a AGP bus of up to 106mhz. My S3 would start to artifact at speeds over 70mhz when running 2x/4x. It is now happily running at 1x 80mhz on a 440LX system with a P2 233@280.

    The TNT2 is currently running at 4x 75mhz for a 300mhz total communications clock. Maybe I'll drop the AGP divider to 2/3 and run 150mhz FSB at AGP4x to get a 400mhz AGP communications...don't get me wrong, but I believe that would be the world record.

    Well now about the whold "Poor dad don't know it" part...he is now running a 4mb AGP1x Velocity 128 card. He doesn't do anything graphics intensive. I would have put the 64mb card in his, but it won't work in his BE6-II for some reason. Works fine in the LX system (that had the 4mb 1x card). Maybe I'll rip the Blorb off of my S3 card and put it on his 440BX chipset (I already have one on the TNT2).

    As for overclocking, I just downloaded some nvidia tweaker. I would use the CoolBits hack, but I have to find a video driver that is compatible with this setup. Almost none of the NV reference drivers worked on his system (same software as I), and so far none of them work on mine.

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    Justintime Guest
    you don't game much, no?



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    Right now I'm running the TNT2 at 190/225. I will have to do some benchmarking and artifact testing to see if its staying stable enough, but at least I can type this without any visual artifacts

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    Justintime Guest
    Do a 3D mark 2001 on that and test stability, and gis your score

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    Justintime Guest
    Sig test

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    lol...I couldn't get 3DMark2001 to run on it at stock speeds. Some of the files are corrupted in 3dm2k1 I'll try fixing it though. Remember, though I've never had luck with 3Dmark2001...it took me 2 months of troubleshooting to finally figure out how to get it working on my S3 card...and when I finally did, I got a score of about 750. This card already feels faster...a lot faster. But hey with like 66% increases in both core and memory clocks, how wouldn't I notice.

    And no, I don't game much. Blizzard's StarCraft:Brood War is the only one that I really play. Couldn't get HalfLife to work because I have XP and it detected it as NT which requires SP3 installed...well they don't even have SP1 for XP. I do watch DVDs, but that's about it.

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    AthlonXP 1600+ @1900+ @ 1.85v
    256MB Corsair PC150 CL2
    12x DVD, 12x CDRW
    Water-cooled 118w Peltier
    Diamond TNT2 Viper V770
    Intel Pentium 4 2.53B C1 @2.85GHz (stock volts), watercooled @ 27*C load
    MSI 865PE Neo2-P (i865PE + ICH5), 1GB PC3200 DDR RAM
    ATi Radeon X700Pro 256MB AGP8x
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 160GB SATA, Maxtor DiamondMax 9 Plus 80GB
    NEC DVD-RW (ND-3520A), Lite-On 52/32/52x CD-RW (LTR-52327S)
    Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP2

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    Alright! Finally fixed my problems! I'm using the 27.20 drivers. I guess the any of the drivers would have worked just as well. For some reason the nVidia reference drivers don't like high FSBs at all. This probably explains why I've had so much trouble with them. In any case, I dropped back to standard system settings and got 3dMark2001 to run with as close to standard settings as possible. Everything was standard except the Antialiasing which the TNT2 doesn't support.

    I got 1551 3dmarks (2x what my Savage2000 got) using 160/190 timings. Justintime, your right the 190/225 timings aren't 100% stable..I would say about 90%. They won't run 3dmark. Using 180/220, the system is 100% stable except that I cannot run 3dmark. Using 640x480x16 settings, I was able to get a whopping 2167 3dmarks! That's triple my Savage2000!

    I'm happy with 160/190 because these are the maximum settings with my CoolBits hack and are started immediately with windows. Since I didn't register any of the other overclocking software, I would either have to view a 10-second banner ad or set it myself at boot, and they weren't stable anyways. 160/190 is most stable and most convenient for me. At least I broked 2000 3dmarks with a TNT2!!!

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    AthlonXP 1600+ @1900+ @ 1.85v
    256MB Corsair PC150 CL2
    12x DVD, 12x CDRW
    Water-cooled 118w Peltier
    Diamond TNT2 Viper V770
    Intel Pentium 4 2.53B C1 @2.85GHz (stock volts), watercooled @ 27*C load
    MSI 865PE Neo2-P (i865PE + ICH5), 1GB PC3200 DDR RAM
    ATi Radeon X700Pro 256MB AGP8x
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 160GB SATA, Maxtor DiamondMax 9 Plus 80GB
    NEC DVD-RW (ND-3520A), Lite-On 52/32/52x CD-RW (LTR-52327S)
    Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP2

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    Half life runs fine on XP

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