T-Bird 1.2 or 1.4, with ThermalRight SK6 with a Delta 38cfm fan
I am about to sell my current T-Bird 1GHz 200MHz FSB with my Alpha7HO and MSI K7T Pro2-A motherboard. The Alpha7HO didn't seem to cool it very good as I had the CPU running on 1.65v and the max temp was around 60C and idle around 45C. I was planning on getting a MSI K7T266 Pro Raid and putting either a T-Bird 1.2 or 1.4 on it with a ThermalRight SK6 with a Delta 38cfm fan and trying to OC it using high FSB and CORSAIR 256MB PC2400 DDR CAS2. Please supply me with any suggestions as in whether I should get a 1.2 or 1.4, which core(ie. AXIA, etc.), good memory?, good motherboard?, good cooling?. Thanks in advance!
Peace!!
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T-Bird 1000Mhz @ 1200Mhz(109.09(218.18DDR))FSB 1.65v
MSI K7T Pro2-A(MS-6330)
128 PC133 Crucial @ 145.45 CAS 2
Hercules 3D Prophet II GTS(230/366)12.41
SB Live!
Maxtor 20GB 7200RPM 2MB cache
40x Asus
TDK VeloCD 16/10/40/32A
KDS VS-195 19"
Netgear 10/100
3-button Logitech
Wyndoze ME
T-Bird 1000Mhz @ 1200Mhz(109.09(218.18DDR))FSB 1.65v
MSI K7T Pro2-A(MS-6330)
128 PC133 Crucial @ 145.45 CAS 2
Hercules 3D Prophet II GTS(230/366)12.41
SB Live!
Maxtor 20GB 7200RPM 2MB cache
40x Asus
TDK VeloCD 16/10/40/32A
KDS VS-195 19"
Netgear 10/100
3-button Logitech
Wyndoze ME
I just picked up a 1.2 200mhz FSB T-Bird for $118, retail box Axia core. The 266 would be a tad faster but my old Asus A7PRO doesn't support 266 although i love this mobo, very stable. I added a GF3 to even things out a bit in games, lol. Obviously get a mobo that supports DDRAM and SDRAM, Asus makes a nice one, A7A266 that will run at 200 and 266. Or go for the old A7V133. For memory, personally i think Micron is good. Although i've had very good luck with CompUSA stuff. I have the magic stick of CompUSA PC100 that runs at 133 2 2 2 without a problem. It's my backup stick right now, lol. For cooling, i'm not as up on it as the veterans around here but i hear copper heatsinks provide the best cooling. A 4500+RPM fan at least to cool a 1.2 or 1.4. Also if you're using this system for alot of games, add more ram, more than 128 megs. I'm using Windows ME and it runs great, i also use a memory manager called cacheman that fixes the 512meg bug found in 98 and ME.
By the way the ThermanlRight SK6 is supposed to be very good but it's a delta, noisey.
Yea, I was planning on making sure it is an AXIA core, but it seems like I read something about an AVHA core(I think) that is even more overclockable than the AXIA. I am going to get a 266 without a doubt and some 300MHz DDR(PC2400), and I have been looking around and haven't seen any made by anybody except CORSAIR. I have a 3D Prophet II 32MB right now(decent) OC's to 220/360. This is a mainly a gaming machine. Want a GF3 but have to wait(maybe till next nVidia chip). I am w/o a doubt going to be getting AT LEAST 256MB of RAM. And I believe I saw a review of the MSI K7T266 Pro Raid and it recieved an 8.5 score, also AMD approved DDR board.
Anybody else have any suggestions or comments?
Thanks netdude!
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T-Bird 1000Mhz @ 1200Mhz(109.09(218.18DDR))FSB 1.65v
MSI K7T Pro2-A(MS-6330)
128 PC133 Crucial @ 145.45 CAS 2
Hercules 3D Prophet II GTS(230/366)12.41
SB Live!
Maxtor 20GB 7200RPM 2MB cache
40x Asus
TDK VeloCD 16/10/40/32A
KDS VS-195 19"
Netgear 10/100
3-button Logitech
Wyndoze ME
T-Bird 1000Mhz @ 1200Mhz(109.09(218.18DDR))FSB 1.65v
MSI K7T Pro2-A(MS-6330)
128 PC133 Crucial @ 145.45 CAS 2
Hercules 3D Prophet II GTS(230/366)12.41
SB Live!
Maxtor 20GB 7200RPM 2MB cache
40x Asus
TDK VeloCD 16/10/40/32A
KDS VS-195 19"
Netgear 10/100
3-button Logitech
Wyndoze ME
For the mobo, you may want to think about the Epox 8K7A/8K7A+ series with the AMD761 DDR set. The newest bios enables a 1/5 pci divider which translates to running the FSB at 166MHz with the pci bus at stock 33Mhz! No more losing function your ethernet card past 150Mhz!
I've seen someone on the Madonion forums running this board on a 200Mhz FSB (don't ask how they did it, but it was for real) on this board, and the memory scores in Sandra were approaching the P4 scores! He was getting over 1GB/s of throughput!
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Sir, are you classified as human? Negative, I am a meat popsicle.
Currently, the 1.0gig "AXIA" Y's is the best for the money. A lot of them are hitting 1.4+ with little voltage increase. From what I read and hear, the 1.2 "AXIA" chips are not clocking any higher than the 1.0gig "AXIA" Y's in most cases.
The "AYHJA" chips are another story. They are o/clocking better than the "AXIA" series from what I read. Most are hitting 1.5+gig with good cooling and a little voltage. If you have the cash, go for the "AYHJA" series IMHO.
But, on the other hand, my local shop can't keep 1.0gigs in stock, but has plenty of 1.2 AXIA Y's unlocked for $120US which I am seriously looking at buying.....
Of course, there are no guarantees..... unless you buy pre-tested.
yeh, my 1.2 is at 1.33 and i'm not gonna shove mucho voltage to get it stable at a faster speed. still, the 1.2 is maybe 15-20 bucks more than the 1 gig and perhaps worth it as a 'sure thing.'
I have a 1.2 266mhz "AXIA" chip @ 1.4 with the original HSF that came with it. I'll try 1.5 once I get my SK6 HSF.
I got lucky though, it was unlocked so I don't have to mess around with the L1 bridges.
The MSi KT266PRo board is a good board. But I wouldn't buy one now. I have one and USB will not work above 140Mhz FSB. Sure, I can get it up to 168Mhz with no problem but the USB dies at around 140Mhz. I don't know about the other DDR boards but I've heard that the ASUS A7M is not a good overclocking board even though it is very stable and gets pretty good scores in benches too.
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