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    HONESTLY! What are the pro's and CONS to AMD???

    Everyone that owns a AMD praises it to death. I just want to know the real PRO's and CON's of this chip.

    My friend needs to buy some STABLE systems for his business and he asked me if AMD is stable enough. He was thinking about the Durons, maybe the 750's.

    Other than the fact that AMD is cheaper, what else is does it have going for it? Does it cause problems with certain software?

    Also, I was wondering what duron overclocks the most? I just might which over if there is a good, HONEST response to this post.


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    Hemiboy, it's your loss.

    I built a AMD T-Bird 1GHz on a KT7-RAID as a file/print/application/web/email server on a 40 node network. It's up 24/7 and has had an uptime of 2 mths, since I first got it configured and setup with NT 4.0 (SP6), it hasn't needed a reboot. I might also add it runs Genome @ Home at 100% CPU load 24/7 in addition to all it's above duties.

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    OVer the last year via and other mobo for the amd chips have got their act together and there is really no visible disadvantage to the processors whatsoever. I will vouch just as S_Klass has for amd setups in terms of stability being I use a duron system as a live gaming server (someone playing on it) over a period of two months (not 24/7) with out a lock up. Have constant up time over 6 days easily however I always am rebooting for somethings an break my streaks.

    The performance is great. ALthough the PIIIs were basically an equal to the amd chips they are still more expensive and at the moment are selling above 1ghz (unless the 1.1ghz was released?) which as amd just released their dually board and the A4s are about to come out as well.

    Less expensive, equal and better performing, stable.....no disavantages I have seen yet with over a solid two years of working with the athlons and every chip to come after them.

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    Pros:

    -Superior FPU
    -Good price

    Cons:

    -Questionable chipsets (in terms on stability)
    -Fragile cores


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    To the last response! The core is frigle becuse you guys dont take care of anythign if you puting something that shouldnt go there or lets say applying to much presure it goes but hey they crack but still work! I havent cracked a single and i sold and tested at least 30 of them so the define points are:

    Pros:
    Cheap
    The best FPU to get in a home PC
    Wery good for just about anything you throw at it!
    Avalible in lot of speed grades, but the main thing is its the best when it comes to doing profesional grpahic rendering and designs..
    Cons
    Runs on high temps (factory heatsink is pleanty though)
    There will be always something better than todays
    and yes the chipsets but via is promising!
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    only thing i hate is the heat, but they've proven to be way stable at high temps (55C+)
    and a good sink will provide adequate cooling (most average coolers work 100% fine as well )

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    Only cons i have bout AMD is the high temp.

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    Only con is (in my opinion) the fact that Via makes the majority of their motherboards (see SB Live issues w/Via boards).

    That said, KT-133a boards are probably the best Via boards I've ever seen. They are pretty decent, and Via has been making what looks like an honest attempt to get their act together (4-in-1 updates, etc) lately. So that's more of a 1/2-con than a whole, so to speak.

    Pros: Great FPU. If you're doing any kind of 3d work, you might as well not bother buying an Intel (right now anyway).

    Dirt-cheap is another pro. I'll admit, once the P4 scales up a little more in speed, I think it'll be a viable alternative (performance-wise), but the price/performance isn't there right now.

    Good overclockers also; AXIA and later stepping seem to be hitting some pretty good speeds.

    Socket-A: Another pro, in my opinion. At least if you buy a socket-A board this year, you'll probably be able to use it through another upgrade cycle. Can't say that for Intel right now.

    So there you have it. I think their stability is just as good as Intel's; all the computers I've been building for work the past two years have had Athlons and they work just as well as our Pentiums. As with any computer buildup, don't get the no-name parts (PC Chips, etc.) surrounding your processor and you'll be just fine.

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    My thoughts-

    Pros:
    -The fastest PC processor available is by AMD
    -Their chips are cheaper than Intels
    -Matches/beats equally clocked Intel chip, but can get even faster for same price
    -No problems with any software
    -Stability has never been a problem for me (I'm running a Classic Athlon 500@700MHz on an AMD-750 chipset mobo)
    -The best upgrade path at the moment is the Socket A platform - all of Intel's motherboard platforms offer a (close to) dead end upgrade path right now

    Cons:
    -Run a bit warm, but get an approved cooler and you shouldn't have a problem
    -Some Sound Blaster Live! ussues, but they are not very common

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    thanks for the replies, I'm going to look into AMD a bit more now.

    I can get a good deal on Duron 750. For some reason they're REAL cheap. Is this a good chip? is this chip a good overclocker?

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    Yeah, the Duron is a very good chip - you get A LOT of power for the money you spend on it. The reason they are dirt cheap is because AMD is undercutting Intel with their Celeron line (which are a fair bit slower than the Duron anyway).

    If you get a high quality cooler then 1GHz isn't out of line for a Duron 750.

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    Yes the 750 has a good chance of getting to 1ghz and is so cheap because of AMD's price wars with intel over the past year. Most 800s will reach a ghz also.

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    not to mention the duron clock for clock will beat the celery on all fronts....bar none...

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    I suppose this deserves an honest answer...

    I've been using AMD chips for years... since they were the underdogs. No probs at all, with WIN 9X. NT/2000 pro/server.

    There is only one thing that I would consider undesireable and that is the fragile core on socket A chips.




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    I love my AMD Duron 800@1Ghz
    Pros:-
    Cheaper than a Celeron
    Better than a Celeron
    TB is superior than a Pentium III/IV

    Cons:-
    Heat has been a problem but a WBK38 fix that

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