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Not only are Siemens in with Microsoft http://discussions.hardwarecentral.com/wink.gif ( http://discussions.hardwarecentral.c...ML/017653.html ), but it seems the chargers supplied with their phones might have something to do with AMD... I have an old ECS motherboard northbridge heatsink, which I applied to the top of the charger, cos the surface temp was (at a guess) at least 50 degrees Celsius; quite hot to the touch!!! http://discussions.hardwarecentral.com/eek.gif What the hell's happening ?!?!?! http://discussions.hardwarecentral.com/biggrin.gif I'd take a picture of it, but some complete pleb (ahem *CS* ahem http://discussions.hardwarecentral.com/smile.gif) has broken their camera, and I don't have one of my own yet...