Hey guys, my system specs will be in the signature. I am wondering if 60-65 C was too hot for my CPU... Anyway, Thanks for any input
-Pikachu
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T-Bird 1.4ghz
KG7-Raid
512meg PC-2100DDR
NVidia GeForce 3
4x IBM Deskstar 30 gig
Hercules GTXP
Netgear FA310TX NIC
TDK 24/10/40 CD-RW
Creative 12x DVD-Rom
Enermax 450w PSU
WinXP Pro
November 15th, 2001, 10:05 AM
Ivman679
A computer that is at school that I built with a T-Bird 1.2 is about that. With stock heatsink and fan. As well as a cramped up case, it runs around 55c at boot up. It probably gets up to around 60-65c when we are actually running applications. At first I was really worried about it because I didn't know that was supposed to be that high. I was thinking that the processor was going to fry or something. Hehe, but then I made a post here and the guys said it was ok and I did a little research. So, from what I know it is ok. But don't take my word for it for sure. http://discussions.hardwarecentral.com/biggrin.gif
If you are using anything better than the stock HS/fan combo then that's way too high.
I'm running a T-Bird 1.2@1425MHz, KG7-RAID, 512MB DDR@150Mhz, IBM Deskstar 75GXP 30gig, ATI Radeon VIVO etc...; almost the exact same setup as you, and my temps are about 42 idle, 52 load with a Thermoengine, ASII and quiet 80mm fan.
MuFu.
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November 15th, 2001, 06:46 PM
Kozakowski
Actually, you might start to notice stability problems with the CPU if the temps increase.
If the temperatures start to rise over 55C, something's not right. AMD Athlon Tbirds do run hot, therefore require ample cooling of the CPU, and it's case.
If you can, add a case fan or two. This will help with the air flow around the CPU, hopefully bringing down temps. Another thing you could try is to apply some thermal compound, namely Arctic Silver II. If that's not available, apply your average computer shop thermal compound. Please read my posts here http://discussions.hardwarecentral.c...ML/017014.html for instructions on how to do this.
The general rule of thumb for Athlon CPUs, even the new XPs, is to provide good cooling. This means having a large case with more than the one power supply fan; a good heatsink and fan, this means not the stock HSF that comes with the CPU; thermal compound for added cooling (those darn thermal pads are really for show http://discussions.hardwarecentral.com/wink.gif ); and lastly, the PC should be in room with a comfortable ambient temp. You'll notice some computer rooms are just sweltering - that's a no no! So if that room of your's is generally perdy warm, this might be the cause of your ails.
Hope this helps.
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Tbird XP 1700
WBK38 w/Sanyo Denko 92MM fan
Asus A7V133
256PC133
Quantum 7200 ATA-100 20GB
Fujitsu 5400 ATA-66 10GB
SB Live MP3+ 5.1
Creative Annihilator 2 GeForce2 GTS 32MB
I Love SucksBox
November 15th, 2001, 08:07 PM
Pikachu
Well, as far as case and cooling is concerned, I have a Coolermaster ATC/s 201 Case, and a Coolermaster Heatsink (Nothing too special). With the case, I have 2 intake and 2 exhaust fans. The temps rose due to my new computer desk. It is solid oak and has the cubby hole for the box. I am debating taking it out of the cuby hole, but I have no idea how much the temps rose because I was never worried about temps before now. Anyway, I think I am gonna take the case out of the cubby hole and check my temps again, I will repost my temps when I get around to actually moving it. Thanks for all the help so far.
-Pikachu
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T-Bird 1.4ghz
KG7-Raid
512meg PC-2100DDR
NVidia GeForce 3
4x IBM Deskstar 30 gig
Hercules GTXP
Netgear FA310TX NIC
TDK 24/10/40 CD-RW
Creative 12x DVD-Rom
Enermax 450w PSU
WinXP Pro
November 16th, 2001, 03:03 AM
Raccoon
Hey, try my cooling solution! My temps were like 60°C+ (full load), so i tried lowering the voltage a bit. Result: 52°C, full load.
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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
November 16th, 2001, 09:40 AM
Pikachu
Well, What did you lower your voltage to? What kind of chip were you using?
-Pikachu
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T-Bird 1.4ghz
KG7-Raid
512meg PC-2100DDR
NVidia GeForce 3
4x IBM Deskstar 30 gig
Hercules GTXP
Netgear FA310TX NIC
TDK 24/10/40 CD-RW
Creative 12x DVD-Rom
Enermax 450w PSU
WinXP Pro
November 16th, 2001, 09:49 PM
netdude
A copper heatsink and a high cfm fan is a must for a 1 gig and over T-Bird.
November 16th, 2001, 10:37 PM
Todd a
No. You can get some low RPM fans if you have a good heatsink. Remember he is trying to get the temps into a more comfortable range. 65'C is pretty hot and my Duron 600 had troubly at 950Mhz unless I kept the temps below 55'C. Most good heatsinks with a medium noise fan will keep the temps below 45-50'C.
Soem people are having really good luck with soem of the higher end ones like the new Alpha and Swiftech monstes with a low RPM 80mm fan or an SK-6 with a slower 60mm fan.
Never settle for extra noise if you do not have to. Also a few nice case fans can make a hugh differance. Of coarse these can be noisy too, so pick carefully. I generally stay below 30db for any one fan. Maybe 35 for the CPU fan at most.
I think it's way too hot. Try a software cooler: VCool. It works exceedingly well. It's also free. It DOES work on the KG7 too. http://www.voodoofiles.com/4640
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My screen says: "Je pense, donc je suis."
[This message has been edited by Telcoman (edited 11-17-2001).]
November 17th, 2001, 02:26 PM
MuFu
Jeezz... VCool is amazing, thanks for the link! I always used to use Rain, but then that's pretty crap with Durons/Athlons. My temps are now 29C idle/45 load. Compare that to what I posted before. Strange that the load temp is lower, I always thought software coolers worked on idle temps only. Oh well... I'm not complaining. http://discussions.hardwarecentral.com/biggrin.gif
Wonder if it'll help me reach that elusive 1.5GHz mark.
MuFu.
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November 17th, 2001, 10:32 PM
Telcoman
I think it's pretty cool too! Just read all the help notes to understand how it works. It might slow down some gaming.
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My screen says: "Je pense, donc je suis."
November 18th, 2001, 12:24 AM
doppleganger
anyone know if that vcool will work with a K266A chipset and a Athlon 1700?
November 18th, 2001, 11:25 AM
Todd a
It should work if the programmer has ipdated it to work on any KT266 or KT266A board. It uses a modification to a system registry that basically forces it into a sleep mode every on un-used CPU cycles. Surfing the net will run at the same temps as sleep mode basically. I use CPUCool and it does the same thing. This will not effect your load temps, but does wonders on your idle temps. My temps dropped about 8'C idle.
As for your cubby hole, you could cut a hole in the back to let the heat out. That is what I did with my desk. It makes it easyer to run the wires and work on things back there. But your other problem is the heatsink. Most Cooler Master heatsinks are pretty bad. The only problem is that most performance heatsinks are very noisy. You must choose carefully when getting a heatsink now adays. You might have to get a high end heatsink like an SK-6 and slap a slower fan on it to get good cooling at a resonable volume.
Ok, guys, I moved my case out of the desk, threw my thermaltake Dragon orb III on there and my temps dropped to around 49C with full load... Is this more realistic? The noise is terrible!!! I think I need to find a differant HSF that cools good but is not obnoxiously loud.. Or just start buying my stuff fo a water cooler. Anyway, Any suggestions on a good HSF?
-Pikachu
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T-Bird 1.4ghz
KG7-Raid
512meg PC-2100DDR
NVidia GeForce 3
4x IBM Deskstar 30 gig
Hercules GTXP
Netgear FA310TX NIC
TDK 24/10/40 CD-RW
Creative 12x DVD-Rom
Enermax 450w PSU
WinXP Pro